That is, Just because you were "Born Again" is no guarantee you will go to heaven. You still have to live a Holy life in the eyes of God.
That is the very catholic perspective ... and denies the Born from above Promise of God. God’s Holy Spirit will not be going to Hell and GOD puts His Holy Spirit spark in the human spirit when one is born from above.
[[Just because you were “Born Again” is no guarantee you will go to heaven.]]
It most certainly is a guarantee I’ll be with My Lord when I die—
[[You still have to live a Holy life in the eyes of God.]]
How holy? 70%? 80%? 100%? (If 100%- then what do we Need Christ for? There is NO verse In the bible that states a man can be 100% Holy after salvation, and if we can’t be 100% holy, then we will ALL NEVER reach heaven because where God is there can be no sin- either Christ died for our sins and we are FOREVER forgiven of our sins, or He didn’t- Your theology DEMANDS that the very second a person dies they MUST quickly repent and ask forgiveness a split second before death because the next second a bad thought might arise- and the person is lost again- otherwise they die with sin in them and God makes it very clear in His word that there can be NO sin in heaven where He is.
Is Christ’s death sufficient or not? The theology you just threw at me makes it clear His death is NOT sufficient)
What is the formula for ‘sins allowed before losing salvation’? How holy were the carnal Christians that Paul spoke to and called ‘brethren’ and ‘babes in Christ’? 30%? 20%? 100%? How holy was King David whom the Lord called a man after His own heart? Did his murder and adultery make him 10% holy? 20%? 100%? How holy was Lot who lived a life of sin yet was called righteous many times?
The only message in the experience I had was a FALSE message that Satan buffeted me for many years over- The false message that Christians can lose their salvation - I’m not going to get into an argument with you over the heresy of Lordship Salvation- this is a thread about NDE’s
please note that my intention is my responses is not to attack you personally- but to defend my position that once we are Saved Christ keeps us until that day- It is a position I am very passionate about, especially in light of the AWFUL years I spent questioning whether I was ‘spiritual enough’ to be saved-
IF there was a message In the experience I had it was this ‘The fear you have of losing salvation is not a fear based on biblical truth, and you need to find the truth to settle it in your mind once and for all that salvation is permanent’
Like I said- Satan shook me terribly for many years after that experience- and it wasn’t until I began carefully examining God’s word In context, learning the greek words for verses which SEEMED to indicate we could lose our salvation, that I began to realize that nope- God does Not demand perfection of us- that we can do Nothing to save ourselves and that yep- there were Christians like me who lived in sin but were still saved-
Had this experience not happened, I probably never would have studied the issue as much as I did, and lived with a constant nagging fear that I wasn’t ‘spiritual enough’ to ‘maintain my salvation’- Thankfully that experience was the catalyst I needed to light a fire udner me to study God’s word and discover the many verses which make it clear our salvation is permanent- regardless of what we do after salvation-