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Very Interesting. Special ping to FR's very own Black Elk.
1 posted on 09/02/2015 4:54:50 PM PDT by TradicalRC
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To: BlackElk

??? thread ping.


2 posted on 09/02/2015 5:04:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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That Black Elk later became a Christian catechist is largely unknown to those who prefer to focus only on his pre-Christian paganism.

He spent more years as a Christian than he did as a pagan.

And was none the less Sioux for it.


3 posted on 09/02/2015 5:05:02 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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Beautiful. May all the indigenous American saints, both known and unknown, rejoice in the glory with which the Savior has endowed them, and may they pray for us.


4 posted on 09/02/2015 5:06:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, love tenderly, and walk humbly with your God.)
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To: TradicalRC

Good post
Thanks


6 posted on 09/02/2015 5:20:08 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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This is why I chose the screen name. Black Elk (the real one) had been a young warrior at the massacre of George Armstrong Custer and his command at Little Big Horn (1876). The battlefield commander of the Lakota that day was his more famous cousin Crazy Horse. There is a generally untold Lakota/Cheyenne/Arapaho side to that story which is included in Evan Connell's remarkable history: Son of the Morning Star (Promontory Books).

For many years after Little Big Horn, Black Elk was a shaman, a pagan "medicine man" and cleric. When Black Elk was in his forties, he was called to the bedside of an apparently dying elderly Lakota warrior and tried to revive him to no avail. At that point, a Roman Catholic missionary priest arrived, baptized the old man, administered the sacraments to him and the man revived. This occurred in around 1905. Black Elk was devastated and, perhaps, humiliated. Nonetheless, he then asked the priest to baptize him and Black Elk spent the rest of his very long life as a Roman Catholic lay missionary to the Lakota, dying in about 1950 at an age estimated to be 87.

I have heard but cannot confirm that he died trying to walk to Mass in a blizzard.

Nienstadt deserves maximum skepticism as an historian. He apparently went into his work with the old noble savage stereotype of Black Elk and would pay no heed to (Nicholas) Black Elk's Catholicism.

13 posted on 09/02/2015 6:27:44 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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I like Frank Fool Crow’s story better, but I have to admit to being in awe of Black Elk.


16 posted on 09/02/2015 6:45:52 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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Remember reading it when I was young. Will have to give it another look.


19 posted on 09/02/2015 7:01:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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