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To: papertyger

I am familiar with the 15 promises.. And sought to test them with scripture as scripture tells us to test the spirits 1 John 4:1. And prove all things- 1 Thess 5:21

And I didn’t get past the first promise before ‘Mary is quoted’ conflicting Her Son when He quoted Deuteronomy to satan ..
The Living Word made flesh quoted His Living Word when confronting Satan- and this Mary conflicted with it..

His Word is Truth. John 17:17

no lie is of the truth, scripture also tells me that. 1 John 2:21

And the only way to explain it away as not a conflict is to come up with a different definition for ‘serve me’- kind of like we saw with a famous lying president with the word ‘is’..

Rome is proud of their Mary. That Mary has come down here and given promises.
I was ignorant of those until a nice Catholic handed me them as a gift-
And what a gift!

But in the exact opposite direction, which is a blessing from Yah.

And I didn’t get through the first promise before I saw her contradicting the Savior..

I suspect the more a protestant hears those or sees those promises,the more they may want to test them against His Word.

They too may see that Rome has created a false Christ, another Jesus..and another Mary.

Because I readily admit, this Mary points to Jesus in Promise 14.. And I would argue that point with Protestants (and have to, ums and ahs)

That is when I realized the faith I had in Rome’s Jesus was misplaced..and I was a ‘Presbyterian’ when I realized my faith was in Rome’s story, not the Scriptural story.

And I repented from trusting and believing inherited lies.. Just like Jeremiah 16:19 quotes- The Gentiles shall come to thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

I did only by His Amazing Grace.

But I admit to being different.

I don’t call today Tiw’s day, Casaer augustus 25th day, like the world that wonders after Rome-giving honor to false gods and roman emperors.

I use His Word and His Creation that tells me today is His 2nd Day, the 10th Day of His 6th month. 10 days since the anniversary of His real Birth, when heavens showed the woman clothed with the sun and the moon was under her feet (Rev 12)

Amazing how much Rome has influenced the world away from His Truth..
Simply by testing Rome and everything it teaches with His Word,one can see a house of cards..

It would seem really odd to folks, if not the proohecies given in Daniel and Revelation..

You better believe I am ‘conversant’ with Rome.

Right down to every counterfeit they have made.

And He didn’t let me stay anywhere near there. Even within a daughter of hers..
Nor did He move me into Judaism.

I was led completely out.. And what a blessing I pray all can experience..
True Freedom from this counterfeit world.

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear .

HalleluYAH!


202 posted on 08/25/2015 11:09:30 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante
I am familiar with the 15 promises.. And sought to test them with scripture as scripture tells us to test the spirits 1 John 4:1. And prove all things- 1 Thess 5:21

I understand all that. I also understand the fervency you have for the Word. What I question is the validity with which you apply your Scriptural test. And this for a number of reasons.

Certainly, if Protestants applied the same standard of punctiliousness for "serve" as they do for "call no man Father," there would be no one left to call Protestant.

Indeed, among the Children of the Reformation, there are a great many meta-doctrines, anecdotes, and aphorisms on how closely to apply various texts that are in no way authorized by the text itself.

These extra-biblical "doctrines" are used to permit convenient latitude on matters such as divorce and remarriage, attire and comportment of women, qualifications of leadership, what kind of leadership, treatment of heresies, heretics and unrepentant sinners...etc.

Usually, these "work-arounds" are granted an informal kind of authorization attributed to a "leading of the Holy Spirit." The problem with that glib "explanation" is there is precious little uniformity of these "authorizations" across the various Protestant sects.

Next, despite many scriptural warnings against seeking to be justified by law, Protestants have in many ways made the Bible into a de facto "law" in itself, though usually for the purposes of condemnation of dissenters rather than justification for themselves.

Finally, I question the validity of the "test" you apply, because invariably Protestants will look only to like minded people to answer the question of whether the test was applied correctly, ignoring or condemning those who don't agree, quickly followed by all manner of chauvinistic accusations as to *why* there was disagreement.

Personally, I believe it is the highest form of "straining at gnats, and swallowing camels" when a Christian of any sect takes obvious relish in acting the "accuser of our brethren."

209 posted on 08/25/2015 5:02:02 PM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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