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Mary, Mother of God, The Greatest of all Her Titles
http://www.catholicchristiananswers.com ^ | August 12, 2015 | Jessie Neace

Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: Arthur McGowan
Because Jesus Christ is God, Mary is called the Mother of God.

Thus the confusion that Rome has created.

Hail Mary; Mother of JESUS has EXACTLY the same 'meaning'; but it does NOT have the magical power that Mother of GOD has; does it.

Do not go beyond what is written.


941 posted on 08/25/2015 4:20:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
“The Lord” is another name for God.

Nope.

The Greek word for *Lord* is "Kyrios", not "Theō" which is translated *God*.

Busted.

942 posted on 08/25/2015 4:21:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Of course, God CAN do anything. He COULD have come into the world without a mother.

Remember this when Mary is given all the things that COULD have happened; but were NOT recorded as doing so.

943 posted on 08/25/2015 4:22:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Hello!

NO one gives a SIN offering if they haven't SINNED!

Do YOU go to confession just to be chummy with the priest?

944 posted on 08/25/2015 4:23:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
How can you call yourself a Christian when you hold, with atheists, that deceased people no longer exist?

How can YOU not recognize your own strawman after you build it?


To: Elsie

You mean absolutely DEAD. I.e., not in Heaven or in Hell. Not existing? Annihilated?

In other words, those who are deceased are non-existent?

883 posted on ‎8‎/‎24‎/‎2015‎ ‎9‎:‎24‎:‎29‎ ‎PM by Arthur McGowan


945 posted on 08/25/2015 4:26:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; BlueDragon; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
Jesus Christ is God, the Second Person of the Trinity.

Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ.

Thus, Mary is the mother of God, the Second Person of the Trinity.

And there is a great example of the theological error that claiming Mary is the mother of God can lead to.

Mary is NOT the mother of the divinity of Christ, as saying that she's the mother of the second person of the Trinity states.

Claiming that the second person of the Trinity has a mother, makes him a created being, with beginning, robbing Him of His deity.

946 posted on 08/25/2015 4:26:44 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
I didn’t mean people in Cleveland. I meant people in the gospels.

I don't care WHO you mean.

What does the Greek SAY?

947 posted on 08/25/2015 4:27:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Dang it Mom!

I was enjoying seeing him try to slither away!


948 posted on 08/25/2015 4:28:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The angel said to Mary that she was “full of grace.”

You know. Without sin.

Being full of grace does not mean sinless.

Grace is given to sinners. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds.

If Mary was all that graced, it was because she was a great sinner.

If Mary had no sin, she didn't need God's grace.

949 posted on 08/25/2015 4:29:10 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

So, you are saying that Mary (actually, her parents), should have BROKEN THE LAW.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIN.

There is no parallel between the sin offering and modern confession. The sin offering was a prescribed ritual, not a personal confession of particular sins. Confession is NOT mandated on any kind of schedule—i.e., after childbirth, or before marriage, etc. It has everything to do with particular, personal sins of which a Catholic is aware.

Pretending that a passage about a MANDATED RITUAL, a law that applied to every Jew, provides information about the state of the state of Mary’s SOUL, is a classic example of Scripture-twisting.


950 posted on 08/25/2015 4:31:10 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Of course, God CAN do anything.

False premise.

God cannot do anything.

Even Scripture tells us that there are things God cannot do.

We can point them out if you need.

951 posted on 08/25/2015 4:31:51 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

The notion that IF Mary was sinless, she did not need grace, or a Savior, is absolutely baseless.

Mary’s sinlessness was a result of grace. It was the result of the saving death of Jesus Christ.


952 posted on 08/25/2015 4:32:56 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; Elsie
You constantly refer to deceased people as unequivocally “dead.”

How can you call yourself a Christian when you hold, with atheists, that deceased people no longer exist?

Scripture constantly talks about people being dead.

Even Jesus used the word *dead* to describe people whose bodies have quit working.

Are you telling us, then, that Jesus claimed those people no longer existed?

By your reasoning, that would be the case.

953 posted on 08/25/2015 4:34:08 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Nobody ever said that Mary gave birth to the eternal, triune God. The title “Mother of God” NEVER NEVER NEVER signified that Mary preceded, or gave rise to, or caused, or gave birth to, the eternal triune God.

While that may be true, it certainly gives one the impression of that.

If we were to have met Ms. McGowan you would have introduced her as your mom with all the implications of the word mom.

954 posted on 08/25/2015 4:35:09 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

There is nothing REAL that God cannot do.

Of course, God cannot make a square circle, or a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it, because those are not real things.

God cannot do things that are contrary to his nature. E.g., God cannot lie, or have malice.


955 posted on 08/25/2015 4:35:24 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: metmom

Same experience here. No man made religion has any control over me.

:-)

956 posted on 08/25/2015 4:35:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (How could anyone suspend himself upon a cross and die for me, die willingly, to set us free.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The Law prescribed that a sin offering be made. Therefore, a sinless person would OBEY THE LAW.

Only sinful people need to obey the Law.

957 posted on 08/25/2015 4:35:48 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone
While that may be true, it certainly gives one the impression of that.

That's just my point. Only ignorant people have that impression. The proper response to ignorance is to transcend and correct it, not wallow in it.

958 posted on 08/25/2015 4:36:58 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; metmom
Mary was not sinless.

She is not noted as being sinless in the Word....anywhere.

catholic encyclopedia online tells us there is no direct proof found in Scripture for this false teaching.

959 posted on 08/25/2015 4:37:08 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie

Since when did posting Scripture ever stop a Catholic from trying to slither?


960 posted on 08/25/2015 4:37:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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