Mary, Mother of God, The Greatest of all Her Titles

http://www.catholicchristiananswers.com ^ | August 12, 2015 | Jessie Neace

[Elsie]

The salutation of the angel Gabriel -- chaire kecharitomene , Hail, full of grace ( Luke 1:28 ) indicates a unique abundance of grace...

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Romans 5:20
But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

[Elsie]

Mary is the mother of Jesus. As with all mothers and children, whatever the child IS, the mother is the mother of THAT....

1 Corinthians 4:6

Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit,

so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written."

Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

[Elsie]

When we get done with Mary's title that Rome gave her; we can go on to the MEAT of this thread:

Authority given to the bishops to decide sound doctrine, Mary was a Holy Virgin her entire life...

[Elsie]

Do the two of you deny Jesus Christ is God?

So many rabbit trails: so few rabbits.

[Elsie]

It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with hatred of Mary, to such as extent that they can look at a formally valid syllogism, and declare it invalid.

It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with the non-biblical veneration, adoration, prayers to Mary; to such as extent; that they can look at Scripture and flatly DENY what it plainly says.

[Elsie]

Upon this Rock I will build My church....sounds Catholic to me.

Depends on which Catholics you BELIEVE; doesn't it??

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As regards the oft-quoted Mt. 16:18

 

• Augustine, sermon:

"Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer. — John Rotelle, O.S.A., Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine , © 1993 New City Press, Sermons, Vol III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327

Upon this rock, said the Lord, I will build my Church. Upon this confession, upon this that you said, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God,' I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not conquer her (Mt. 16:18). — John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City, 1993) Sermons, Volume III/7, Sermon 236A.3, p. 48.

 

• Augustine, sermon:

For petra (rock) is not derived from Peter, but Peter from petra; just as Christ is not called so from the Christian, but the Christian from Christ. For on this very account the Lord said, 'On this rock will I build my Church,' because Peter had said, 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.' On this rock, therefore, He said, which thou hast confessed, I will build my Church. For the Rock (Petra) was Christ; and on this foundation was Peter himself built. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Christ Jesus. The Church, therefore, which is founded in Christ received from Him the keys of the kingdom of heaven in the person of Peter, that is to say, the power of binding and loosing sins. For what the Church is essentially in Christ, such representatively is Peter in the rock (petra); and in this representation Christ is to be understood as the Rock, Peter as the Church. — Augustine Tractate CXXIV; Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: First Series, Volume VII Tractate CXXIV (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.iii.cxxv.html)

 

• Augustine, sermon:

And Peter, one speaking for the rest of them, one for all, said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God (Mt 16:15-16)...And I tell you: you are Peter; because I am the rock, you are Rocky, Peter-I mean, rock doesn't come from Rocky, but Rocky from rock, just as Christ doesn't come from Christian, but Christian from Christ; and upon this rock I will build my Church (Mt 16:17-18); not upon Peter, or Rocky, which is what you are, but upon the rock which you have confessed. I will build my Church though; I will build you, because in this answer of yours you represent the Church. — John Rotelle, O.S.A. Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Volume III/7, Sermon 270.2, p. 289

 

• Augustine, sermon:

Peter had already said to him, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' He had already heard, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of the underworld shall not conquer her' (Mt 16:16-18)...Christ himself was the rock, while Peter, Rocky, was only named from the rock. That's why the rock rose again, to make Peter solid and strong; because Peter would have perished, if the rock hadn't lived. — John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City, 1993) Sermons, Volume III/7, Sermon 244.1, p. 95

 

• Augustine, sermon:

...because on this rock, he said, I will build my Church, and the gates of the underworld shall not overcome it (Mt. 16:18). Now the rock was Christ (1 Cor. 10:4). Was it Paul that was crucified for you? Hold on to these texts, love these texts, repeat them in a fraternal and peaceful manner. — John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1995), Sermons, Volume III/10, Sermon 358.5, p. 193

 

• Augustine, Psalm LXI:

Let us call to mind the Gospel: 'Upon this Rock I will build My Church.' Therefore She crieth from the ends of the earth, whom He hath willed to build upon a Rock. But in order that the Church might be builded upon the Rock, who was made the Rock? Hear Paul saying: 'But the Rock was Christ.' On Him therefore builded we have been. — Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1956), Volume VIII, Saint Augustin, Exposition on the Book of Psalms, Psalm LXI.3, p. 249. (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf108.ii.LXI.html)

 

• Augustine, in “Retractions,”

In a passage in this book, I said about the Apostle Peter: 'On him as on a rock the Church was built.'...But I know that very frequently at a later time, I so explained what the Lord said: 'Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church,' that it be understood as built upon Him whom Peter confessed saying: 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,' and so Peter, called after this rock, represented the person of the Church which is built upon this rock, and has received 'the keys of the kingdom of heaven.' For, 'Thou art Peter' and not 'Thou art the rock' was said to him. But 'the rock was Christ,' in confessing whom, as also the whole Church confesses, Simon was called Peter. But let the reader decide which of these two opinions is the more probable. — The Fathers of the Church (Washington D.C., Catholic University, 1968), Saint Augustine, The Retractations Chapter 20.1:.

 

[Elsie]

Who cares??

I count this as one vote for Hillary.

She has a LOT of IRS stuff on her servers...

[Elsie]

How nice, that you are so easily amused. LOL

Just don't scare his pigeons; as they may do predictable things.

[Elsie]

This is something most non-Catholics are guilty of.

Yeah!

Them PUBLICANS!!!

--Catholic_Wannbe_Dude(Hail Mary!)

[Elsie]

because we actually believe that Jesus is God.....don't you??

Jesus???

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Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

[Elsie]

are you saying that Jesus never referred to Mary as His mother.....mom....?????

are you saying that Jesus never referred to Himself as...

...GOD?

[Elsie]

Where does God, the Father, refer to Jesus Christ as

“God”. Chapter and verse, please.

Good point!

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Where does the bible, which Rome compiled, refer to Mary as “Mother of God”.

Chapter and verse, please.

[Elsie]

Where does the bible, which Rome compiled, refer to Mary as “Mother of God”.

The Koran sure doesn't!

[Elsie]

....when you make serious errors in your life, you do anything that you can think of to justify them.....

It'll take much MORE than 95 to get Rome to listen THIS time!

But don't worry; Francis is up to the task.

[Elsie]

Jesus wasn't speaking Greek when He said it, He was probably speaking aramaic and Peter knew EXACTLY what He was saying.

WOW!

The most arrogant display of bombast combined with mindreading that I've seen all morning!

And it's EARLY yet!

[Elsie]

THIS IS MY SON IN WHICH I AM WELL PLEASED.....

This is the Son's mother; who Rome is well pleased to use.

You may find the Scripture reference for this graven image at...

Oh... wait...

[Elsie]

As usual, they are trying their best to justify their falling away from true Christianity....the Bible really didn't mean this, or the Bible was just talking about bread, not transubstantiation, Mary is buried somewhere but nobody remembers where....when you make serious errors in your life, you do anything that you can think of to justify them.....it never works.

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Heck; you Catholics don't even know where JESUS was buried!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Jesus

[Elsie]

....believe me, Jesus, as a child, referred to Mary as mother ...

Really?

Believe YOU???

[Elsie]

...to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Yet Rome would have MILLIONS tremble at IT's word!!!

[Elsie]

Just out of curiosity, why did people, in a minute village in Israel, have to know 3 languages????

HAVE to??

I didn't say that, you did....I said probably speaking Aramaic....

Like I said before; this stuff just writes itself.