Mary, Mother of God, The Greatest of all Her Titles

http://www.catholicchristiananswers.com ^ | August 12, 2015 | Jessie Neace

[terycarl]

Where does God, the Father, refer to Jesus Christ as “God”. Chapter and verse, please.

THIS IS MY SON IN WHICH I AM WELL PLEASED.....

[terycarl]

Scripture always quotes Him as calling her *Woman*. Do you have other Scripture showing where He called her *Mom*?

I have 3 sons......if any of the three had ever called their mother woman, they would have a hard time sitting for a month....believe me, Jesus, as a child, referred to Mary as mother or mom or whatever Jewish kids called their maternal parent.......and it wasn't woman.

[af_vet_1981]

when you make serious errors in your life, you do anything that you can think of to justify them.....it never works.

A complete and contrite confession, holding nothing back, works.

Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
Isaiah, Catholic chapter, Protestant verses one to two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[BlueDragon]

I have no objections to the word of God, as it is written, which does include that Christ was prophesied to be referred to as Immanuel, which I accept does mean God with us.

I asked you where you were going with the request to "confess" to your own wordings, and how those are possibly being sought to next apply, in this context, on this thread.

And this is your last chance.

Would you care to address that, and reveal -- right now--- just where you are hoping to drive towards next, or is it still all promises of candy & lovey-dovey too (in the van)?

I feel as if I'm in danger of being molested, while a would-be molester speaks of "love".

[ealgeone]

The Greek word is for woman. The vast majority of the major translations have it as woman.

However, it is not a sign of disrespect as we understand it might be today.

And this is why we study the Greek. :)

Always good to see you TC.

[terycarl]

"PROBABLY" speaking Greek?!?!?!

I didn't say that, you did....I said probably speaking Aramaic....possibly Hebrew but probably not Greek.

Just out of curiosity, why did people, in a minute village in Israel, have to know 3 languages????

[CommerceComet]

.believe me, Jesus, as a child, referred to Mary as mother or mom or whatever Jewish kids called their maternal parent.......and it wasn't woman.

If the phrase is so disrespectful for a child, why wasn't it disrespectful for Jesus as an adult to refer to Mary in the same way?

[Springfield Reformer]

And there are substantial arguments that even if Jesus was speaking Aramaic, there are words in Aramaic that would have retained the distinction between Peter and the Rock anyway. So the retreat to Aramaic buys the “I am of Peter” faction absolutely nothing. For a great study of the issue, see Chrys Caragounis’ book, “Peter and the Rock.”

Which is why we are better off sticking with the words we have been given, inspired in the Greek by the Holy Spirit. Speculation without a solid foundation is a fast track to serious error.

Peace,

SR

[metmom]

WHY should I believe you?

Do you have anything to offer but your opinion?

[metmom]

Which is why we are better off sticking with the words we have been given, inspired in the Greek by the Holy Spirit. Speculation without a solid foundation is a fast track to serious error.

Bears repeating.

[Springfield Reformer]

Just out of curiosity, why did people, in a minute village in Israel, have to know 3 languages????

Very close proximity to Cesarea for those in Galilee, and generally being right in the middle of a narrow strip of land that joins continents, and so was heavily travelled by the Romans, Greeks, and others. Israel was an occupied country. You couldn't get by as a merchant if you couldn't talk to your potential customers.

Also remember when Jesus was crucified, the sign calling Him King of the Jews was posted in those three languages. Right in the heart of Israel, Jerusalem. I've been there. It's a small country. Lots of cross-connecting between various people groups, even now. But now of course they all speak English. Latin not so much. :)

Peace,

SR

[af_vet_1981]

Very close proximity to Cesarea for those in Galilee,

I would not characterize the distance from the Galil to Caesaera as close proximity, not even via Egged.

[Mark17]

Uhhhhh, who made up that 30's group that you are a member of???Navigators, is it???

LOL, eat your heart out. The Navs are really nice guys, who pointed out the error of my ways. Praise God for that. 😇 Try it, you'll like it. 😎 I inow I do. 😊

I see you avoided my question about what is your plan of salvation. On second thought, don't bother telling me. I am sure I would just disagree with you anyway. Come to think of it, is there even one thing we will ever agree on? Maybe not, but I am OK with that. At the terrible risk of committing the mortal sin of presumption, I will have a nice, sweet eternity. I wonder if others will too, but that's on them. 😆

[mrobisr]

And the Rock is Jesus Christ not Peter, so that would put the RCC on sand and thus the RCC believers shall be swept away.
Just how many versus does it take for one to see that Jesus Christ is the Rock?

Matthew 7:24-27New International Version (NIV)

The Wise and Foolish Builders
24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

Matthew 16:18
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And I tell you that you are Peter (4074 [e], Petros) , and on this rock (4073 [e], Petra)
I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

1 Corinthians 10:4
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and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock (4073 [e], Petras) that accompanied them, and that rock (4073 [e], Petra) was Christ.

1 Peter 2:8
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and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock (4073 [e], Petra) that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

Matthew 14:28
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“Lord, if it’s you,” Peter (4074 [e], Petros) replied, “tell me to come to you on the water.”

Deuteronomy 32:4
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He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.

Deuteronomy 32:15
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Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; filled with food, they became heavy and sleek. They abandoned the God who made them and rejected the Rock their Savior.
Deuteronomy 32:18
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You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.
Deuteronomy 32:30
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How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless the LORD had given them up?
Deuteronomy 32:31
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For their rock is not like our Rock, as even our enemies concede.
Deuteronomy 32:37
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He will say: “Now where are their gods, the rock they took refuge in,
1 Samuel 2:2
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“There is no one holy like the LORD; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
2 Samuel 22:2
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He said: “The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer;
2 Samuel 22:3
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my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior— from violent people you save me.
2 Samuel 22:32
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For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
2 Samuel 22:47
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“The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be my God, the Rock, my Savior!
2 Samuel 23:3
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The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me: ‘When one rules over people in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,
Psalm 18:2
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The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
Psalm 18:31
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For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?
Psalm 18:46
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The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God my Savior!
Psalm 19:14
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May these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 28:1
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Of David. To you, LORD, I call; you are my Rock, do not turn a deaf ear to me. For if you remain silent, I will be like those who go down to the pit.
Psalm 31:2
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Turn your ear to me, come quickly to my rescue; be my rock of refuge, a strong fortress to save me.
Psalm 31:3
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Since you are my rock and my fortress, for the sake of your name lead and guide me.
Psalm 42:9
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I say to God my Rock, “Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?”
Psalm 62:2
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Truly he is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will never be shaken.
Psalm 62:6
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Truly he is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will not be shaken.
Psalm 62:7
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My salvation and my honor depend on God; he is my mighty rock, my refuge.
Psalm 71:3
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Be my rock of refuge, to which I can always go; give the command to save me, for you are my rock and my fortress.
Psalm 78:35
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They remembered that God was their Rock, that God Most High was their Redeemer.
Psalm 89:26
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He will call out to me, ‘You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Savior.’
Psalm 92:15
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proclaiming, “The LORD is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him.”
Psalm 94:22
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But the LORD has become my fortress, and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.
Psalm 95:1
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Come, let us sing for joy to the LORD; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 144:1
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Of David. Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.
Isaiah 8:14
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He will be a holy place; for both Israel and Judah he will be a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall. And for the people of Jerusalem he will be a trap and a snare.
Isaiah 17:10
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You have forgotten God your Savior; you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress. Therefore, though you set out the finest plants and plant imported vines,
Isaiah 26:4
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Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD, the LORD himself, is the Rock eternal.
Isaiah 30:29
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And you will sing as on the night you celebrate a holy festival; your hearts will rejoice as when people playing pipes go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
Isaiah 44:8
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Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”
Isaiah 51:1
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“Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness and who seek the LORD: Look to the rock from which you were cut and to the quarry from which you were hewn;
Habakkuk 1:12
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LORD, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy One, you will never die. You, LORD, have appointed them to execute judgment; you, my Rock, have ordained them to punish.

[Zuriel]

**Any Christian should be able to freely confess these two truths. 1.Mary is the mother of God (with us).
2.Jesus is God the Son.**

Neither phrase is found in the scriptures.

[Springfield Reformer]

In relative geographical terms, very close, and certainly close enough to have a major impact on language, culture, etc:

http://www.bible-history.com/geography/ancient-israel/israel-first-century.html

But yep, walking that distance would be a good way to burn some calories. :)

Peace,

SR

[Springfield Reformer]

Yep, a fine group. Founded by an ordinary evangelical church guy, Dawson Trotman: See his interesting biography here:

http://www.discipleshiplibrary.com/pdfs/dawson_trotman_more.pdf

The emphasis was not on any divergent doctrine, but on practical discipleship, taking the Scriptures and making them such an embedded part of your life they would change your life, help you overcome bad habits, help you live according to the standards of Christian life taught in Scripture, and then becoming the sort of person who can help others find that same path to godly living.

But thinking they are some separate denominational group is a misunderstanding. It would be like saying the Gideons are a denomination because they leave Bibles at hotels. It’s just silly. My uncle was a Gideon, a sound Presbyterian, and a godly man.

Peace,

SR

[Zuriel]

Did you even read John 12:44-50 one time?

You are just spouting your ‘tradition’.

You like to use your three little sentences to claim proof of Mary being ‘mother of God’.

Here’s three little sentences from me.

Jesus Christ was sent from God the Father.
The Holy Ghost is sent from God the Father.
God the Father has one awesome utility belt.

[MHGinTN]

LOL!