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To: tired&retired
One more?

Here's another quote from a different message that gives me pause:

as for those who call themselves Mine yet are offensive when it comes to spiritual matters, I tell them: "if you were blind you would not be guilty, but since you say, 'we see and can tell', your guilt remains!" how many times will I have to reproach them for their incredulity and obstinacy?
That's painting with a fairly wide brush for our world. Plenty of guilty to raise their hands to that one, but speaking only for my own wretched self, sadly, mine is raised very high.

The central theme, to me, seems to be about those who know the Law, but don't get or live the Love, as He says here:

it is because you have not the Holy Spirit who could have risen you from darkness into His Light enlightening your soul to see the Son together with the Father manifesting themselves to you;
I think He is saying that we have to have both, the Father and the Son, the Law and the Love, and one without the error leads to error.

For whatever reason(s), people can't get their heads around Jesus' truth, then or now, me included. From experience, I know that this requires something else, something beyond rational thought.

From a practical standpoint, what good is a tool if you never use it? What good is a belief if you never apply it?

And, you can tell just by people watching over time. People do what they mean, regardless of what they say they mean, and the inner light they follow is obvious by how someone "is".

Anyway, that's my evolving understanding from watching people and comparing what I see and have seen to what little I understand about what I've read so far.

To any who might be offended by the quotes I posted, I sincerely regret that you are offended. That is not my intent.

681 posted on 08/15/2015 7:15:22 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: GBA

I went to the site you posted, GBA. You probably were not aware of the following, so I post it in hopes of deterring any naïve away.

What follows is what is meant to be corroborating testimony. The whole thing is absolutely disturbing.

http://www.tlig.org/en/spirituality/passion/ :

It was unreal that we could be witnessing what seemed to have the qualities of the Lord’s Passion. With the torso being off the floor, an image I saw was of one being on the cross. Her moans and cries of agony were interrupted at times with the words, “peace ... peace...peace.” (repeated many times). I do not know how long this lasted but her body stopped moving and she hung there suspended off the floor as I described.

At some point later her torso was again flat on the floor and she raised both hands. Her eyes opened and her face became radiant in a manner I had not seen before. She called out very softly “Abba” with her hands raised. Her lips moved as if talking but I heard nothing. She became quiet again but I could tell she was still suffering. At one point she kind of hung her head to the left and became very still, almost as if dead.

She uttered, hardly audibly, the words, “I am thirsty.” Father O’Carroll got a glass of water to give her a drink but she could not take it. I was kneeling behind her right shoulder. She was laying with her arms outstretched and appeared to be in less pain. She raised her hand in the form of a blessing - holding her fingers like Jesus is sometimes depicted giving a blessing. She then very slowly blessed each of us. Very agonizingly and determinedly, as she moved her right arm, she would point at each person, but never look at them. I had the awareness as though Jesus was blessing us from the Cross. She became still, crossed her hands and laid them high on her stomach. She laid very still, with her eyes open. At this point one of the party had to leave.

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Further, http://www.tlig.org/en/news/2015-07-10/2328/ :

Canvas size: 48 inches x 36 inches (122 cm x 92 cm)
•Each print is hand signed by the artist, Vassula Ryden, as a faithful reproduction of the original oil painting
•An original Limited Edition Print on Canvas strictly limited to 200 prints
•A certificate of authenticity will accompany each canvas
•Only 5 copies will be available at the Pilgrimage
•Price: 890 euro or 1000 US$ a piece
•Cheques are not accepted
•Proceeds go to the True Life in God worldwide mission

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GBA, I beg you, be careful for your soul.


682 posted on 08/15/2015 9:14:35 AM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: GBA

GBA, I agree with you.

John said it very well:

God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. 17 This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

19 We love because he first loved us. 20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. 21 And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.


683 posted on 08/15/2015 9:41:50 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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