No it did not move the conversation along, it put it in reverse. Yes Eagle I did look at your link and you are still misunderstanding what I and the Bible are saying. I have tried 5 different ways to explain it and I have run out of options. I wish both of you the best.
I’m none too sharp, Verga. Could you rephrase your point or question, please? I thought I understood it, but apparently not.
Honestly, every listing I find online and in my resources at home gives the same list as SouthernClaire provided.
That might help.