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To: verga
>>It's one of the reasons I don't like the ECFs. There only consistency is inconsistency. But sometimes when discussing with catholics I like to use catholic sources.<<

Kind of a cop out answer, I generally don't expect that from you, but it is your prerogative.

I don't see it as a cop out as I can point to a lot of positions where Catholics agree with a statement by the ECFs but then reject other things they say when the ECFs are opposed to Catholicism.

The ECFs are interesting reading, but any theology they present I compare with the Word.

They're all over the place it seems on the issues.

That presents a problem for the non-Catholics. The Jewish scriptures are given in this order The Torah (The Law), The Prophets, and finally the Writings.

If we go strictly by Jesus's words in Matthew that leaves out the last old testament prophet Malachi, and all of the Writings. This means you would not have Psalms, Proverbs, Job, The song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Ester, Daniel, Ezra-Nehemiah, and Chronicles.

The link below has the Hebrew Bible with the Law, the Prophets and the Writings...including all the books you say are omitted.

http://catholic-resources.org/Bible/Heb-Xn-Bibles.htm

My textbook, "Old Survey Testament" has the Hebrew Bible along with the listing of the catholic bible and protestant bible.

It took has the Torah (5), Prophets (8), Writings (11). This list also includes the books you note are omitted in your references. I do not have those available but would be interested in seeing them if you have a readily available link.

In either case Jesus did reference Genesis to Chronicles when He mentioned Abel to Zechariah. From this He was referencing the Hebrew Bible from the above link from catholic resources.

452 posted on 08/12/2015 4:52:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
You misunderstood what I said. If the only books in that Jesus referred to were Able to Zechariah that means that there are only the Torah Which begins with Genesis and ends with Deuteronomy and the Prophets which begins with Joshua and according tot he way non-Catholics measure ends with Zechariah.

Christ did not mention Malachi or the "Writings" in Matthew. Yes the Tanach and the JSB both contain the writings, but a strict literal meaning of Christ words would require the elimination of the Writings.

Is that more clear?

453 posted on 08/12/2015 5:22:04 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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