All three men you named accepted the “Real Presence”, based on that is this something you will now accept?
II was pretty sure you would ignore that post. I would like an answer though.
As promised...
It's one of the reasons I don't like the ECFs. There only consistency is inconsistency. But sometimes when discussing with catholics I like to use catholic sources.
A better position on this would have been to use the Word.
Matthew 23:35 NASB)
....that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
In this we see Christ referencing the beginning and ending of the Hebrew bible. From Genesis to Chronicles.
The Hebrew bible did not contain the apocrypha. Hence, Jesus is not including the apocrypha as Scripture.
Kind of a cop out answer, I generally don't expect that from you, but it is your prerogative.
Matthew 23:35 NASB) ....that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
In this we see Christ referencing the beginning and ending of the Hebrew bible. From Genesis to Chronicles.
The Hebrew bible did not contain the apocrypha. Hence, Jesus is not including the apocrypha as Scripture.
That presents a problem for the non-Catholics. The Jewish scriptures are given in this order The Torah (The Law), The Prophets, and finally the Writings.
If we go strictly by Jesus's words in Matthew that leaves out the last old testament prophet Malachi, and all of the Writings. This means you would not have Psalms, Proverbs, Job, The song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Ester, Daniel, Ezra-Nehemiah, and Chronicles.
Please do not take my word for it. I used both the Stone Edition Tanch and the Oxford edition of the Jewish study Bible.
Weren't the Jews the ones who crucified Christ?? Why then, would you assume that their version of anything was the correct one??