[caww]

Well it really falls in the lines of not having assurance of their salvation...even more that it's sinful to think that's possible...(see the trap).... You must accept the assurance Jesus claims that we have in Him or none of the rest matters....they often remain in their sins channeled through a false sense of security via the Mass and Priesthood which causes them to rely on that which they can taste touch and feel....Faith independent of such is not imaginable let alone practiced.

[metmom]

What is seen is not of faith. There is no faith needed when something is seen.

We walk by faith, not by sight.