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1 posted on 07/26/2015 6:09:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Good for them. This is why I don’t believe in denominations - if the head honchos made an Unbiblical decision - it affects all the churches under it’s umbrella. Then, they have to pay to get out from under that umbrella. I guess I missed that in the Scriptures. Can someone please point that out to me?


2 posted on 07/26/2015 6:14:20 PM PDT by Catsrus (WWWW)
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Praise the Lord. May MANY more follow...


3 posted on 07/26/2015 6:14:29 PM PDT by codder too
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The most likely got away clean because they are mortgaged to the hilt and the Conference stood to gain very little by taking their property. So, they let them leave since they had very little in assets.

There’s a good strategy in that for other congregations looking to escape that pit of vipers that the UMC has become.

This is not what the Progs who run the UMC wanted to see. The conservative congregations tend to pay full apportionments (the money paid to the Conference each year). Those apportionments plus the guaranteed employment and salary minimums are important to keep those leftist pastors in the pulpit twisting the gospel until they sound like the works of Marx.


4 posted on 07/26/2015 6:20:15 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To stay in God’s Word is what Jesus tells all Christians to do. As he said in the account of Mary and Martha of Bethany when Mary devoted her time to listening to his words, “Mary has chosen wisely, and it will not be taken from her.” That commendation and promise from our Savior is priceless.


6 posted on 07/26/2015 6:23:00 PM PDT by txrefugee
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At least one Methodist church fleeing the wrath to come.


7 posted on 07/26/2015 6:24:10 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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Good choice! Follow Jesus, not wicked men.

Come out of her [Babylon] my people and be not a partaker in her plagues...Revelation 18
9 posted on 07/26/2015 6:38:37 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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I grew up here in south central PA in the EUB Church. When I came out of the Army in ‘61 they’d gone UM. I left at that point and regard an Independent Fundamental Bible Church as my home. A number of Lutheran churches in this area have left their governing body and gone Indy/Fundy lately and have grown exponentially.


10 posted on 07/26/2015 6:39:24 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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Even the local big-box Church that’s nontraditional and nondenominational declared they will not be performing same-sex weddings.

Maybe, together, when we stand one by one, we will be be able to make a difference.


11 posted on 07/26/2015 6:45:18 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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"considerable chasm forming between what Wesley believed and affirmed about the nature of God's word and what the denomination believed and affirmed about the nature of God's Word.

There is no need to discern "the nature of God's Word" when it is in flat-out, black and white, clearly stated in repeated scriptures. Homosexual sex is absolutely sin.

12 posted on 07/26/2015 7:03:45 PM PDT by Tamzee (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~~~ Ronald Reagan)
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Institutions are often led by those who have an institutional mindset where individual preferences are secondary to what supposedly benefits the institution.

Churches want more members and thus their leadership will sometimes support policies like illegal immigration or gay marriage that will bring more members into the fold.

Political Parties operate the same way.


13 posted on 07/26/2015 7:25:40 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Free speech and 1st A is dead when it becomes illegal to criticize illegals or any others.)
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My church denomination, Evangelical Free (EFCA), released a statement that regardless what the courts or culture say, we stand on Gods word.

In September our pastor will have a series of sermons on what Gods word clearly says about homosexuality, premarital sex,..... The pastor stands ready to obey God over man.


14 posted on 07/26/2015 7:32:18 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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Mr Gryboski ....gee Polish...duh wonder?

They always write like this in north country like all Protestants are on board with gay crap

Not in the south they are not

The few down here that are lib anyhow

Lutheran reformed

Disciples of Christ goblet flag

PCUSA

that about it

Southern Baptist even with out pc chosen bossman is not we’re largest prod denom

Southern Methodist

Mizzou Synod

PCA

Harding Lipscomb Church of Christ...big in Texas and Tennessee

Assemblies of God and nearly all charismatics


15 posted on 07/26/2015 7:40:38 PM PDT by wardaddy (Mark Levin.....I love him...but he is ignorant of Dixie)
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I keep wondering how anyone who calls themselves a Christian, can think abortion, practicing homosexually,....is okay with God. Or knowing an innocent baby suffers and then is murdered or seeing two men or two women together isn’t revolting... Especially when the bible explicitly talks about these issues directly. I guess that’s what is meant by “God Gave them over to a depraved mind....” I remind them of the scriptures...then they talk about the nice gay person they know and they can’t help it and it’s not fair.....I just want to slap them or shake them so they wake up.


16 posted on 07/26/2015 8:03:39 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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Others, including most notably the Rev. Adam Hamilton, senior pastor of the megachurch United Methodist Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, have lobbied for individual congregations to determine whether or not to follow the Book of Discipline's position on homosexuality.

Adam Hamilton should know better. This won't work. The UMC has an itinerant ministry system. Pastors are assigned to churches and can be transferred within a district. They don't get to pick and choose where they go and though congregations have some input in the process, they have to take what they get.

The UMC church in Africa and some Asian countries is growing while in the U.S. it is shrinking. The African and Asian UMC churches are much more conservative than those in the U.S. At the last General Conference (in which all the global UMC churches have a say), the ordination of homosexuals was voted down by 61%. The issue will reemerge in 2016 and will again be voted down. It should be the liberal UMC churches that split off, not the conservative ones who are in the majority.

17 posted on 07/26/2015 8:19:04 PM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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I’m trying to understand this, can anyone help me? I thought Methodists, particularly Wesleyans, were among the more traditional of protestant denominations in moral issues, both in USA and their home country of England?

Aren’t Wesleyans closely allied with “Evangelicals”? Don’t Methodists, the Wesley branch especially, strongly rely on the Bible and the “Holy Spirit” too, for all spiritual foundations? Is this the same as “Pentecostal”?

Can you tell I’m Catholic!?! I truly want to know about these various belief systems, because Catholics and Bible-based Christians are going to have to start sticking together in this country.


18 posted on 07/26/2015 9:49:26 PM PDT by 2tipsea (What can I say?)
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“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” 2 Timothy 4:3

And, so it goes....

21 posted on 07/27/2015 5:00:31 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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