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To: Boogieman
So those who are saved, they are in Christ and the Christ is in them. These are they called His Spiritual Church, the Body of Christ.

The seventy weeks of Daniel's prophecy is for:

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

For those in Christ, Paul tells us:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don't walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.

Do you presume that God will have these who are not condemned upon the Earth when the condemnation from God begins in Jerusalem? The Revelation indicates otherwise:

Rev 3:7 To the angel of the assembly in Philadelphia write: He who is holy, he who is true, he who has the key of David, he who opens and no one can shut, and who shuts and no one opens, says these things: I know your works (behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one can shut), that you have a little power, and kept my word, and didn't deny my name.
9 Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
10 Because you kept my command to endure, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, which is to come on the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
11 I am coming quickly! Hold firmly that which you have, so that no one takes your crown.

Now let's see what this open door opens to, as shown to John, remembering that the Bible did not have chapter separations as we have now, so this verse is a continuation of what we see in Rev 3 with the open door:

Rev4:1 After these things I looked and saw a door opened in heaven, and the first voice that I heard, like a trumpet speaking with me, was one saying, "Come up here, and I will show you the things which must happen after this." Immediately I was in the Spirit.

The message to the Laodicean Church comes right after the message to the Philadelphia Church. Looking at what The Spirit says about spewing that Church out, we understand the 'after these things' to then refer us to what came right before 'these things' regarding the Laodicean Church. So we see the door open as the door referred to in the message to the Philadelphia Church. The Spirit says "Come up here, and I will show you the things which must happen after this." From that point in the Revelation until the nineteenth chapter, the Church is not mentioned on Earth. When The Body of Christ, the Spiritual Church, is mentioned again it is called 'The Bride of Christ'. So where did the marriage take place since it happened before the Bride and The Lord return to the Earth?

610 posted on 07/29/2015 9:09:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

“Do you presume that God will have these who are not condemned upon the Earth when the condemnation from God begins in Jerusalem?”

The condemnation of God doesn’t happen until after Christ returns, as it is Christ that treads the winepress of God’s wrath. By that time, we’ll all be resurrected in glorified bodies, so we won’t have to worry about being “collateral damage”.

“remembering that the Bible did not have chapter separations as we have now, so this verse is a continuation of what we see in Rev 3 with the open door:”

Nonsense, there is a clear textual distinction, with the previous chapter being in the form of an epistle to a church, and this chapter being a visionary prophecy, told from the first person point of view of John. John is the one being told to “come up here”, just as John is the subject of many such instructions and comments throughout the book, as he is the one being given the vision.

“When The Body of Christ, the Spiritual Church, is mentioned again it is called ‘The Bride of Christ’. So where did the marriage take place since it happened before the Bride and The Lord return to the Earth?”

The marriage can’t happen before the resurrection, otherwise only believers who were alive at the time could be considered part of the church, and that can’t possibly be a correct interpretation. So any wedding can’t take place before the first resurrection, when all members of the church, living and dead, are reunited with Christ, and that takes place at the end of the tribulation.


611 posted on 07/29/2015 9:18:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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