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To: sasportas
If one is justified by grace through faith (saints),....If their sins are no more remembered and are as far as the east is from the west.....If Noah was accounted righteous because he believed God, ......If Abraham was righteous because he believed God, ........if Lot was accounted because he believed God........and if the the church (saints) are accounted righteous, not because of anything they did, but because of what Jesus did via the death, burial, and resurrection. are accounted righteous....if Jesus says your sins are forgiven you,......then why would a righteous God pour out his wrath on the Bride of His beloved Son? Why would they not be accorded what they were promised by God, Himself? That their sins ( unrightousness) are forgiven them?

If IICorn; 15:51 and Thess 2 are speaking of calling forth the dead from the grave, then we which are alive and remain to meet him in the air, then go to the marriage supper, I do not see anything but a pre tribulation 'catching away' or 'snatching away' of that group of people who believed and had faith in Jesus. At that point the Holy sporty is removed from the earth and for 3 1/2 years lawless abound, so much so that if Jesus did not return there would be nothing left, and the angels and his saints make war against the dragon. It seems clear to me from reading the scripture. No one knows the day or the hour, but we are instructed (Matt. 24, Luke 21) to look up, see the signs of the times, for our redemption draws near).

312 posted on 07/27/2015 8:47:57 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

Beautifully stated!


313 posted on 07/27/2015 8:52:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Texas Songwriter

On your first paragraph, the pretrib wrath argument has been answered repeatedly by myself and others on this thread.

On your last paragraph, you need to go to my post 254, and deal with with what I said there. You have to go to Rev. 19:1-9 if you want to find out when the marriage supper of the Lamb takes place.


314 posted on 07/27/2015 9:00:43 AM PDT by sasportas
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