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To my favorite Catholic.
Thank you both, I’d be delighted to read a civil thread (for once...)
"Church without Christ". I realize Rod is talking about something much more subtle, e.g. immersion in the liturgical arts or the intellectual tradition, or even "Christian civilization" rather than Christ, or even "the Bible" rather than Christ, but...
((((Sigh...))))
One way I can see this "Church without Christ" phenomenon in Catholicism is the attachment to quasi-church quasi-public institutions where Christ is not Lord, is not the Landlord and is not even welcome as a tenant. The Christlessness of "Catholic" colleges and Universities is almost too obvious to dwell on: I want Ignatius of Loyola to rise from the grave, stride over to those "in the Jesuit tradition" University rectors and slap them upside the head.
The same goes for parochial primary and secondary schools which neither evangelize nor catechize; Catholic Charities and Catholic Relief Services hanging from the teats of the omnicompetent Sow State; the Catholic Health Association affiliates that are just begging to be "forced" to violate their "principles" ("Go on, twist my arm").
That'll all be swept away...
but in all things may Christ be glorified.