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Do YOU personally know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior as the Holy Scriptures teach.
The Bible ^ | July 22, 2015 | knarf (inspired by The Ignorant Fisherman)

Posted on 07/22/2015 6:13:14 AM PDT by knarf

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To: jimbo807; teppe; Normandy; WilliamRobert; StormPrepper
And Al Gore; too!

Also; Joseph Smith, Jr. invented the computer mouse.

Here are a few diagrams of it embedded in this Reformed Egyptian message...




161 posted on 07/24/2015 12:16:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
In the entire Old Testament there is not one explanation for why Moses making a brass snake and putting it up on a pole and whoever even looked at it would be cured of snake bites.

I sure wish ol' Moses had made one with a danged MOSQUITO!!!

162 posted on 07/24/2015 12:18:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
In Lisa Randall's recent book (Warped Passages) she describes the formation of certain types of crystals which indicate that there is an interaction between this 4D realm of our senses and higher dimensional reality, such that the crystals array as if from another dimension rather than built up from the bottom.

I ain't gonna comment on anything warped.

163 posted on 07/24/2015 12:19:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

 zero point field ???

 

 

 Lyndon LaRouche

 

THE PARADOX OF THE PONCELET VANISHING POINT -- PART I

 The Principle of Continuity

 

 
 
http://wlym.com/archive/pedagogicals/paradox.html

164 posted on 07/24/2015 12:25:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Zero Point refers to temperature. If you chill a bit of space down to absolute zero, there is still energy in that such that particles continue to pop in and out of existence. The reason is the amount of 'latent energy' in an given volume of space, anywhere.

The Bible speaks of God stretching out the Heavens like a scroll. What do you get when you stretch a rubber band? Energy, potential energy. When you let go of the rubber band being stretched, the potential energy converts 'to do work' and the band snaps back to previous size. As God is stretching out the Universe, the amount of energy in the zero point field is growing exponentially. This translates into more and more 'virtual' particles popping in and out of existence.

165 posted on 07/24/2015 12:33:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: FourtySeven

That is one hell of a treatise to avoid the question. Kudos to you.


166 posted on 07/24/2015 1:36:53 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: MHGinTN

Hs anyone ever actually done what you refer to in your first paragraph? Is this verified science?


167 posted on 07/24/2015 1:39:46 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: FourtySeven; jimbo807
Lets say it's possible that some "alien" from Orion or wherever made humanity [...]. Does this "fact" change or answer in any way our question?

Not that I disagree with your post, which was nicely done, but I will add a different tangent:

Without exception, if history, lore, and legend are to be accounted, one would be best served to place every hope against and away from 'Those who from heaven to earth came'. Every time that these 'beings' have made an arrival in the past, it has always only been doom for mankind. If one lets the histories of indigenous peoples speak plainly, and if one follows Santayana's maxim ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"), then the experiences of our elders should cause one to look upon your statement with nothing other than sheer, shuddering horror.

And in that, again relying on what has come before, your question as posed is readily answered - If one would care to seek it out. And it ain't pretty.

168 posted on 07/24/2015 2:00:51 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: jimbo807

The Internet is full of material on the zero point field, including the papers recently done which show that inertia and gravity are attributable to mass interacting with the field. You will have fun just looking through some of the stuff.


169 posted on 07/24/2015 2:26:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

O...
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170 posted on 07/24/2015 2:36:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jimbo807

Until we put atomic clocks in orbit; we could not verify that time slows down with increasing speed.


171 posted on 07/24/2015 2:38:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Has it been experimentally verified or just hypothesized?


172 posted on 07/24/2015 2:38:39 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: jimbo807; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

Considering the number of times that science has been right about anything, and how changeable it is, I’ll stick with Scripture.

There’s no way that science is consistent or reliable enough that I would consider anything that scientists claimed it proved as actually fact.


173 posted on 07/24/2015 2:40:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

Meh. Everybody knows the universe is electric anyway. :)


174 posted on 07/24/2015 2:41:09 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: metmom

Your choice of course, but a thousands year old collection of writings is somewhat of a stretch for me to establish my worldview.


175 posted on 07/24/2015 2:42:59 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: jimbo807

Those “thousands year old collection of writings” state many things in them that those (alleged) goat herders could NEVER have known on their own.

Try this one out for some recreational reading, if you haven’t seen it before.

The threads were both posted with the same title, several years apart, so I think there are things in them that Gerald Schroder may have later included that weren’t in the first one.

The Age of the Universe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3051495/posts (2013)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576941/posts (2005)


176 posted on 07/24/2015 2:51:55 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I have seen those before and they are interesting.

So you don’t believe science is reliable? Interesting standpoint given the recent flyby of Pluto, rovers on Mars, the discovery of blackholes everywhere, planets in abundance, etc. Not to mention all of the technological advances here on earth.


177 posted on 07/24/2015 2:57:49 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: jimbo807

If life were simply the physical, mechanical end of the equation, you might have a point.

But it’s not.

Science CANNOT address the questions that are most pressing on us as far as the meaning of our lives and our existence.

Reality is more than material creation and the things that mean most to us are not physical. Science has no answer for one who is dealing with emotional pain, rejection, disappointment, abuse, anger, etc.

Fixing the outward body does not touch the hurting inward person, the soul.

Science has it’s uses and it’s fine for that for which it is intended. It has improved the levels of comfort we enjoy, and made life easier through technology, but is useless to satisfy the longings of the human heart nor can it give meaning to life.


178 posted on 07/24/2015 2:58:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

What will be your reaction when science creates AI? That is not too far away.


179 posted on 07/24/2015 2:59:36 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: jimbo807
So you don’t believe science is reliable? Interesting standpoint given the recent flyby of Pluto, rovers on Mars, the discovery of blackholes everywhere, planets in abundance, etc. Not to mention all of the technological advances here on earth.

So for how long do you consider that information reliable?

The flyby of Pluto changed a LOT about what we knew about it, which was next to nothing. Now we know a little more than next to nothing, and that will only be the word until the next time we exam it and learn a little more.

And just how much do we know about black holes? Has anyone ever gone there and examined one?

Science is ALWAYS in a state of flux. Today's cutting edge knowledge will be in the dustbin next week when something else comes along to provide new information.

So no, there is no way that I can expect science to conclusively prove that we're here by space alien seeding, for example.

180 posted on 07/24/2015 3:04:42 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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