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1 posted on 07/03/2015 7:54:06 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
Interesting.

Yeah. It's so interesting that our English forbears came here principally to get away from the statist church and its Romanist roots. That this country was rooted in RCC doctrine? I don't think so. Another attempt to claim a nonexistent superiority of principle.

2 posted on 07/03/2015 8:07:23 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: NKP_Vet
The most quoted book at the time of the American Revolution was the Bible. The most quoted man at the time of the Declaration of Independence was Montesquieu.

Montesquieu, born, baptized, schooled Catholic.

Of course the Declaration of Independence was influenced by Catholic thought. What made America different from all of the other New World Catholic influence, was English, German and Dutch practicality and discipline.

3 posted on 07/03/2015 8:07:46 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: NKP_Vet

The United States was the only nation founded as largely a deliberate, non-Catholic Christian nation.

At the founding they were about .4% and mostly in Maryland, and were close to nonexistent until they started showing up in the 1840s, and in the 1850s reached 5% of the population, bringing in unionism and big city politics.

JFK devoted his life to getting in the 1965 Immigration Act, and since then, the democrats have imported 10s of millions of Catholics.


5 posted on 07/03/2015 8:26:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: NKP_Vet; Gamecock; metmom; RnMomof7; PAR35; CynicalBear; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; daniel1212
Back in 1926 an Indianapolis parish priest, John C. Rager, demonstrated that the core of the Declaration of Independence has its roots in Catholic thought....The following comparisons, clause for clause, of the American Declaration of Independence and of excerpts from the political principles of [Thomas Aquinas and Cardinal Robert Bellarmine], evidence striking similarity and identity of political principle.

LOL what a bunch of wishful hooey! Happy PRESBYTERIAN REBELLION DAY, everybody!

During the era of the American Revolution, King George III and his supporters perceived that the war was a "Presbyterian Rebellion." Why? The label "Presbyterian" was a much more ambiguous designation than it is at present. Employed broadly as a synonym for a Calvinist, a dissenter, or a republican, the term was used with considerable imprecision in the eighteenth century. Furthermore, it was used as a demagogic tool to inflame popular passions. The term Presbyterian carried with it the connotation of a fanatical, anti-monarchical rebel. Those who designated the war a Presbyterian Rebellion could be considered biased, partisan, and somewhat extreme....Calvinists and Calvinism permeated the American colonial milieu, and the king's friends did not wish for this fact to go unnoticed. This inconspicuous reality is one of the missing chapters in the conventional history of the genesis of the United States....
-- from the thread The Presbyterian Rebellion: An analysis of the perception

....we should not be surprised to find that the Calvinists took a very important part in American Revolution. Calvin emphasized that the sovereignty of God, when applied to the affairs of government proved to be crucial, because God as the Supreme Ruler had all ultimate authority vested in Him, and all other authority flowed from God, as it pleased Him to bestow it.

The Scriptures, God's special revelation of Himself to mankind, were taken as the final authority for all of life, as containing eternal principles, which were for all ages, and all peoples. Calvin based his views on these very Scriptures. As we read earlier, in Paul's letter to the Romans, God's Word declares the state to be a divinely established institution.

History is eloquent in declaring that the American republican democracy was born of Christianity and that form of Christianity was Calvinism. The great revolutionary conflict which resulted in the founding of this nation was carried out mainly by Calvinists--many of whom had been trained in the rigidly Presbyterian college of Princeton....

....In fact, most of the early American culture was Reformed or tied strongly to it (just read the New England Primer). Von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, a Roman Catholic intellectual and National Review contributor, asserts: “If we call the American statesmen of the late eighteenth century the Founding Fathers of the United States, then the Pilgrims and Puritans were the grandfathers and Calvin the great-grandfather…”
-- from the thread John Calvin: Religious liberty and Political liberty

American Government and Christianity - America's Christian Roots
Reformation Faith & Representative Democracy
July 4th -- Happy "Presbyterian Rebellion" Day!
Jenny Geddes
CALVINISM IN AMERICA [Happy "Presbyterian Rebellion" Day, everybody!]
The Presbyterian Rebellion: An analysis of the perception [Happy Presbyterian Rebellion Day!]
The Presbyterian Rebellion [Happy Presbyterian Rebellion Day, everyone!]
Calvinism In America [July 4th -- Happy "Presbyterian Rebellion" Day, everyone!]
John Calvin was America’s ’Founding Father’ [Presbyterian Rebellion Day]
John Calvin and the American Founding
THE 1780 PRESBYTERIAN REBELLION AND THE BATTLE OF HUCK'S DEFEAT
"A Scotch-Irish Presbyterian Rebellion"
Presbyterianism and the American Revolution in the Middle Colonies [Presbyterian Rebellion Day]
Calvin and American Exceptionalism (Happy Presbyterian Rebellion Day!)
Preachers under fire: politics from the pulpit breaks the law, some say [Presbyterian Rebellion Day]

7 posted on 07/03/2015 8:29:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NKP_Vet

I thought it was Masonic?


11 posted on 07/03/2015 8:53:59 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: NKP_Vet
The Catholic Church rejected religious freedom up to Vatican II and Dignitatis humanae. It's sort of difficult to wrap oneself in our nation's founding when that was the case.
15 posted on 07/03/2015 9:01:08 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: NKP_Vet

Ping for later


19 posted on 07/03/2015 9:14:18 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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Oh lovely, religion-centrics are even picking Catholic versus Protestant fights on the even of Independence Day. Raising division instead of seeking the unity that the founding fathers, who were Protestant, Catholic and Jewish, joined in to fight the British monarchy and establish a new country where freedom of religion was one of the keystones.

Lord save us from always seeking disunity in Your name.


22 posted on 07/03/2015 9:25:38 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NKP_Vet

What is it with mere mortals taking credit for God’s blessings? No wonder we find ourselves in the state of ill repute. Nation of narcissists.


24 posted on 07/03/2015 9:41:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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