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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is." 1 John 3:2

I tend to look at this passage as a Rapture related passage. In 1Thes4:13-18 we read of the Rapture and in iCor15:51-52 read more about the Rapture:

Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

To see Jesus as He really is in His Glorified state we would be seeing Him as a greater than 4 dimensional being, a being Who can appear in a locked and shuttered room or leave a stone tomb without rolling away the doorway stone or appear on the Road to Ammaeus or suddenly disappear. There is an argument to be made that Jesus appeared back int he Old Testament beside the River Chabar and on the Mountain with Moses, etc (the Christophanies). To do these things one is a more than 4D being, perhaps five, six or even seven dimensions.

To be able to see a five D being I would have to be a 5D being. To see a six dimensional being in their fullness I would have to be a 6D being. we can illustrate this with a simple analogy of flatland, a world of just length and width spatial orientation. If I want to show a being living int hat length-width world a ball, a length-width-height object, I would pass the ball through their world. But only where the ball intersects their world will they see any of the ball. To see the ball as it really is I would have to have length-width-height capability/essence.

Jesus gave this Physics lesson to Philip in John 14, sort of, when Philip said 'Show us the Father and that will convince us that Your are The Christ , you are a part of the One God.' Jesus replied, 'All you can see of The Father is what you see in me, for I am in the Father and the Father in me. If you've seen me, you've seen The Father intersecting your 'realm of capabilities' your sensory realm.

So, when Jesus appears in His six or seven dimensional self, we shall see Him as He really is because we will have been changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye to be of the same six dimensional reality, or however many dimensions He is using then. That also indicates that our change will cause us to no longer be sensed by the 4D world around us ... in essence, at the Rapture of the Church we who are being snatched away before the Wrath of God is poured out will simply disappear as we are caught up nto the clouds.

582 posted on 07/04/2015 4:46:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
Very interesting analogy. We cannot "see God" unless we have, in a sense, the dimensions of God. This is not a natural capacity, or even a capacity imaginable to a person who is not "in Christ."

As always, analogical language. Or as the Church says, anagogical: leading us to the very reality of that analogy.

584 posted on 07/04/2015 4:58:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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To: MHGinTN
at the Rapture of the Church we who are being snatched away before the Wrath of God is poured out will simply disappear as we are caught up into the clouds.

Right MHG. Do you still have that offer to anyone who misses the rapture, that they can live in your house, or take whatever they think they might need, in order to survive the tribulation period? People who miss the rapture are welcome to take all my earthly possessions too, as I won't have any need of them anymore. 😇😎 By the way, I won't need those sunglasses either. 😆

585 posted on 07/04/2015 5:01:17 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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