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To: MHGinTN
It is not a simple matter. Is the forgiveness denied tot he person BEFORE salvation?

How can there be forgiveness without salvation or salvation without forgiveness?

516 posted on 07/04/2015 10:47:08 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius; MHGinTN
How can there be forgiveness without salvation or salvation without forgiveness?

There can't be salvation without forgiveness. When God forgives a person, they are saved.

In people to people interactions thiugh, are you saying then that a person must forgive everyone who ever offended them before they can be saved?

Are we required to clean up our act first before we get saved in order to get saved? Is that what Catholicism teaches?

Or do we get saved and then God cleans up our act for us, in us, and through the work of the Holy Spirit in us?

Do you think it's possible for someone to forgive EVERY SINGLE offense done against them? What if they miss some cause they forgot about it? Were they not saved after all when they thought they were?

602 posted on 07/04/2015 7:44:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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