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To: metmom
First off, born again Christians know they are saved not only from the penalty of sin, but the power of sin as well, because we DIED to sin in Christ Jesus. Since we are dead to sin, it no longer has nay power over us.

When you say this do you mean that one cannot sin or that there are no longer any consequences to his sins?

104 posted on 07/01/2015 8:09:15 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

You have posed the question in such a twisted fashion that you can easily attack it: “When you say this do you mean that one cannot sin or that there are no longer any consequences to his sins?” You KNOW even the Justified person born from above will not live a perfect lie by THE LAW. The law of sin and death has however been covered by the Sacred Blood of Jesus Christ on the Mercy Seat OVER the laws. As Paul wrote so plainly, which you would find a point to rejoice over if you believed it: ‘There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.’ That ‘in Christ Jesus is an immediate event by the Grace of God over your faith in Jesus as Savior and Lord. You cannot earn any part of that, for you cannot do any work of righteousness on the calculus level of God’s righteousness without His Life in you.


109 posted on 07/01/2015 8:50:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Petrosius

No and no.

It means sin does not control us any more, that we have the ability to say no to sinning. As long as we’re in this body, we can sin because the flesh is still with us.

Yes, one can sin if one chooses to sin and nobody ever said or suggested that there are no consequences to sin. Sin always has consequences but God will not take away our salvation for it, rather He disciplines us.

Catholics seem to think, at least I’ve never met any one who thinks differently on it, that the only consequence to sin is the loss of salvation. They are mentally stuck in that paradigm.

It seems to be beyond their comprehension that a saved person can sin and still be saved.

The reality is, that another consequence to sin is God’s discipline. That’s what He uses on His children. He doesn’t disown them for their sin.


116 posted on 07/01/2015 9:17:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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