Posted on 07/01/2015 7:13:05 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Now you’re changing the quote?
Which is it? Lukewarm? Or lapsed?
Or are you going to “quote” him as saying something he didn’t really say in te first place?
Indeed sir. We had been witnessing to one of my honey's friends, from a different denomination, for about 18 months. She told me she now fully understands the difference between saving faith and non saving knowledge of events. We will keep after her.
I remember what one of the greatest American evangelists, Dwight L Moody said. He said that he felt like a lifeboat on the sea, and his aim, was to help get as many people saved as possible, in the time he had left. From what I heard, he preached a sermon in Chicago, and told the people to consider what he said, and return the next day. That was October 8th, 1871. That same night, the Great Chicago Fire killed almost 300 people. Moody vowed he would NEVER again preach a sermon, without pressing for people to make a positive decision for Jesus. A good guy for sure.
His friend Horatio G Spofford, who wrote "It is Well With My Soul," suffered losses similar to Job, but he hung in there his whole life.
Do they actually believe that nonsense? No wonder they are so messed up.
Protestantism is a false religion. I suggest you worry about your own salvation. I follow the faith started by Christ and it’s been around 2,00 years. You follow the ramblings of pastor Billy Bob or one of the million others that have been around for 5, 10, 15 years. All started by a mortal man. If you want to follow Christ don’t you think you should start with the faith started by the Man himself.
“When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from his throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the victim for the sins of men. It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors; it is greater than that of saints and angels, grater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. The priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of man – not once but a thousand times! The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows his head in humble obedience to the priest's command.”
Is there any sentence in that paragraph that should be offensive to a Christian? [ HINT: like the last sentence in particular! ]
Catholics are fond of saying Protestantism is a false religion. Yet the catholics on these threads have yet to see anything offensive in that paragraph. How about you. Checked your oil in your lamp lately?
Affirmative sir. It offends me. I said it before, God bows to NO ONE. Never has, never will, even if some think He does. I do not have a religion, I have a relationship. 😂
RVN_Vet
More than one and half billion Christians say you are wrong.
Of the good seed sown, what percentage brought forth fruit? Let the whole world be what they are but Jesus is not a respecter of numbers. try to understand what in that paragraph is offensive to those born from above with God’s Spirit in them. Salvation is a very personal thing, not the consensus of masses.
Let God be true, and let every man be a liar. (Rom 3:4) Many are called but few are chosen (Matt 22:14) I don't know exactly what that means, in terms of numbers, but judging from all the thousands of people I see around me, and how most people seem so unconcerned about eternity, my guess, is the VAST, VAST majority of the earth's population will end up in the Lake of Fire. Heaven is likely to be a VERY exclusive place, as Jesus said unless a man is born from above, he can not see the Kingdom of God. (John 3:3) I know that is not pleasant, but I believe the scriptures are quite clear on that. Such is life. Maybe you can sell people oil for their lamps. 😂😎😆😀
Ping wing.
Does that mean YOU agree with this????
“When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from his throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the victim for the sins of men. It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors; it is greater than that of saints and angels, grater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. The priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of man – not once but a thousand times! The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows his head in humble obedience to the priest’s command.”
No blood.
Here is a prime example for you (all). Recently a non-Catholic made the error about saying that the flesh availed nothing, Yet we see from scripture, that that Jesus wasn't referring to His divine holy flesh but rather to sins of the flesh, as described by Paul:
And Paul clarifies that quite nicely in Galatians. (Pay attention this time I am getting tired of having to repeat myself.)
Gal 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are contrary the one to the other; that ye may not do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousies, wraths, factions, divisions, parties,
Gal 5:21 envyings, drunkenness, revellings, and such like; of which I forewarn you, even as I did forewarn you, that they who practise such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 meekness, self-control; against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are of Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with the passions and the lusts thereof.
Do you find that as funny hypocritical as I do?
According to LDS sources; only about 15% of all MORMONs will make it tom the HIGHEST level of Mormon Heaven.
How does a Catholic IGNORE the words of Jesus when He says:
And JESUS was at the CENTER of every one of them.
He ain't in the mumbo-jumbo of wafer/wine.
And JESUS was at the CENTER of every one of them.
He ain't in the mumbo-jumbo of wafer/wine.
A person will get the exact same effect from eating them and NOT believing that they turn into ACTUAL flesh and ACTUAL blood.
Yeah!
You can use it sometime when needed.
In what way?
It parsed out ok for me.
Catholics accept the Real Presence® because their faith REQUIURES it.
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