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To: daniel1212
Yeah, ok. But 70% of the Congress is some form of Protestant. Have any of them ever been called out, kicked out, or sanctioned for their pro-abortion views? Jimmy Carter was a deacon or something in the Southern Baptists. Eventually, he quit. But they never kicked him out.

So, I think you protest too much. Religious organizations are voluntary and don't have the power they had even 20 years ago. To try to make the Catholic's somehow the poster children for this seems over the top.

On this thread: I posted a non-equivical statement by the highest ranking Catholic in the USA against gay marriage.

Now's the time to get on the record. I'm looking through this and I'm not seeing any other leaders of the various Protestant Christian sects making clear public statements. Surely that matters too?

34 posted on 06/28/2015 8:04:13 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
Here is another religion going on the record: Supreme Court Decision Will Not Alter Doctrine on Marriage[LDS - Mormon]
38 posted on 06/29/2015 8:03:52 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
Not officially, but Scripturally what you do and foster constitutes the evidence of what you really believe, (Mt. 7:20; Ja. 2:18) and by treating even proabortion/sodomite/Muslim public figures as members in life and in death, then Rome manifests to the people what she really means by what she officially says. And the laity much reflect that, or the prelates reflect them .

Yeah, ok. But 70% of the Congress is some form of Protestant. Have any of them ever been called out, kicked out, or sanctioned for their pro-abortion views?

No, as traditional evangelical believers (who do call libs out) do not get elected in the first place much less appointed to SCOTUS as they will not compromise. Liberals manifestly can feel at home as a Catholic far more than they can in evangelical churches.

Your response is further specious as I was not defending a particular church or "Protestantism," the definition of which is typically so wide that you could drive a Jim Jones/Scientology 747 thru it, and we evangelicals recognize it is Biblical to leave liberal churches for conservative ones, which a RC cannot do without being part of a sect or in schism.

But RCs do defend a a particular church,. even as the one true one, and the issue was your defence of here as not supporting gay marriage, despite what Scripture says constitutes the evidence of what you really believe, and how Rome manifests that.

Jimmy Carter was a deacon or something in the Southern Baptists. Eventually, he quit. But they never kicked him out.

Which they should have, but which has to do with the polity of the SBC, in which the churches are basically autonomous. But because of the conservative nature of it overall, Jimmy Carter types are far more likely to leave it then Catholic churches. Your pope would not feel too much at home in such as regards many social views it seems.

Now's the time to get on the record. I'm looking through this and I'm not seeing any other leaders of the various Protestant Christian sects making clear public statements.

Then you simply do not see evangelical leaders as Prots, or rely on the MSM, which marginalizes them as well.

Here We Stand: An Evangelical Declaration on Marriage More than 100 leaders [including David Platt, J. I. Packer, Richard Mouw, Jim Daly, Ron Sider, David Dockery, Al Mohler, and Richard Land] respond to Supreme Court legalizing same-sex marriage. June 26, 2015

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A coalition of evangelical leaders assembled by the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission has released the following:

As evangelical Christians, we dissent from the court’s ruling that redefines marriage. The state did not create the family, and should not try to recreate the family in its own image. We will not capitulate on marriage because biblical authority requires that we cannot. The outcome of the Supreme Court’s ruling to redefine marriage represents what seems like the result of a half-century of witnessing marriage’s decline through divorce, cohabitation, and a worldview of almost limitless sexual freedom. The Supreme Court’s actions pose incalculable risks to an already volatile social fabric by alienating those whose beliefs about marriage are motivated by deep biblical convictions and concern for the common good.

The Bible clearly teaches the enduring truth that marriage consists of one man and one woman. From Genesis to Revelation, the authority of Scripture witnesses to the nature of biblical marriage as uniquely bound to the complementarity of man and woman. This truth is not negotiable....

Evangelical churches must be faithful to the biblical witness on marriage regardless of the cultural shift....

Other evang. reproofs include those from Al Mohler, John Piper, and Franklin Graham.

From the latter,

The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled today that same-sex marriage is legal in all 50 states. With all due respect to the court, it did not define marriage, and therefore is not entitled to re-define it.

Long before our government came into existence, marriage was created by the One who created man and woman—Almighty God—and His decisions are not subject to review or revision by any manmade court. God is clear about the definition of marriage in His Holy Word: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24).

I pray God will spare America from His judgment, though, by our actions as a nation, we give Him less and less reason to do so.

But the pope and Vatican seems to see Climate Change, etc. is the issue that needs to be addressed.

41 posted on 06/29/2015 7:30:44 PM PDT by daniel1212 (uiredm,)
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