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To: Mrs. Don-o

“So don’t scorn Apostolic oral teaching, It has authority equal to that of Apostolic writings.”

1. If God chose not to inspire the teaching in written Scripture, it is not equal to a scripture.
2. If it is not in Scripture, it is second hand or further removed - hear-say.
3. Authority to carry out the authority of the limited office of the Apostles is not identical to Scripture.
4. Historical, factual truth is not equal to inspiration.
5. Teaching, at the time was authoritative, but obviously not inspired or we would have it in Scripture.
6. Apostolic writings are different than Scripture inspired by God’s Spirit.
7. Ancient is not equivalent to earliest, or you’d be finding evidence from before 100 ad.
8 making any other source equivalent to the unquestioned authority of that which was inspired by God in Scripture as the basis for doctrines, opens Pandoras Box and results in accepting paganism into his Church- as we see in the accretions of Rome.
9. There is no Doctrinal Blank check that can be written and drawn on the Truth account.

Best to you


204 posted on 06/28/2015 5:07:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Good morning, AMPU! I really appreciate well-organized posts, and what you've sent me is rather a treat. Here's my response:

1. Since God chose to inspire His teaching in oral form years or decades before it became written Scripture, the Apostles' oral teaching is equal to Scripture.

2. Non-Scriptural sources of Apostolic truth can be discerned in the continuity and consensus of beliefs and practices of the most ancient Apostolic-founded churches.

3. Authority to carry on the office of the Apostles is found in Scripture.

4. Historical, factual truth, while not identical to inspired truth, is still truth. All truth has its own proper authority.

5. Apostolic oral teaching was authoritative at the time it was spoken, and thus was inspired even before it was transcribed.

6. Apostolic writings are inspired by God’s Spirit. (I add here that the canon of Scripture closed at the death of the last Apostle.)

7. Ancient is equivalent to earliest, since we have evidence from before 100 A.D.

8. Recognizing other sources equivalent to Scripture, such as Sacred Tradition, Natural Law, and the teaching office of the Church, as the basis for doctrines, is required by the unity of Truth, and the authority of the Holy Spirit who leads us into all Truth. This results in consistent continuity in the development of doctrine, as we see in the Catholic Church.

9. Many checks can be written and drawn on the Truth account, since we know that Christ teaches us through His Church --- as Scripture itself acknowledges.

OK, you established your points by mere assertion; and I refuted them the same way.

Omitting sources and argumentation sure conserves space and time :o) Have a good Sunday.

213 posted on 06/28/2015 9:02:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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