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To: Bryanw92
Your description sounds different from the one we've read in the Bible. Doesn't it?

Look again at Luke 13:

"When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, open to us; and he shall answer and say to you, I know you not whence ye are; then shall ye begin to say, We did eat and drink in thy presence, and thou didst teach in our streets; and he shall say, I tell you, I know not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."

These people knew about Jesus, believed in Him, wanted to be with Him in His kingdom. Why didn't He open the door?

What does Jesus think of people who merely believe on Him? Is believing what makes a disciple?

"Jesus therefore said to those Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, then are ye truly my disciples" - John 8:31

And listen to what He said to some who believed on Him:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do." - John 8:44

There is no halfway; there are no "full disciples" and partial disciples. To be a disciple, first we have to know what the Master requires, and then we have to do it. Otherwise we'll end up like those who get the door slammed in their faces.

We find 3000 brand new disciples on Pentecost in Acts 2. They heard what the Master required, and they did it. Shouldn't we imitate them, and just do what they did?

Why would we need to spend time investigating "what's the least we can get by with?" Like the Nike ad, let's find out what the King orders, and just do it.
87 posted on 06/27/2015 7:21:04 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

>>Otherwise we’ll end up like those who get the door slammed in their faces.

Then he should have given us a checklist so we know all the things that we must do.

If he is really as exclusive as you say, then I don’t really care what he wants since I am doomed to fail on technicalities anyway. A “limited” warranty is no warranty at all. Salvation that depends on a secret list of conditions is not salvation. The verses you choose portray God as Lucy with her football and ignore the ones regarding grace.


89 posted on 06/27/2015 7:45:52 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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