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To: MHGinTN; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
That passage from Mark is used to fabricate mumbo jumbo.

It is indeed "mumbo jumbo," which can be defined as needed as Catholicism does with the words eat My flesh and drink My blood." For these words, which RCs claim to take literally, do not convey "if you eat even a speck of consecrated bread you are consuming as its essence My soul and divinity, flesh and blood, but which by appearance really is not."

This is set in contrast to cannibalism in which actual flesh and blood is consumed, yet it can include the belief (in endocannibalism) that spiritual qualities of the deceased are thereby conveyed, though these are not seen in what they eat.

And if we allow for a extraBiblical; neoPlatonic theology of transubstantiation that of necessity (lest they be seen as typical cannibals) explains how one can consume the real body and blood of Christ without actually consuming His bloody body, and with what they appear to be eating being in substance something entirely different, so can we allow pagans to develop a theology that defines cannibalism as being what Catholicism claims, though in endocannibalism it can be in essence very similar.

Supposing one gains spiritual life by literally eating human flesh and blood is akin to pagan endocannibalism, and is not Scriptural and the Scriptural gospel.

Alpers and Lindenbaum’s research conclusively demonstrated that kuru [neurological disorder] spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the bodies of the deceased to return the “life force” of the deceased to the hamlet, a Fore societal subunit. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%...9#Transmission

he custom of eating bread sacramentally as the body of a god was practised by the Aztecs before the discovery and conquest of Mexico by the Spaniards."

The May ceremony is thus described by the historian Acosta: “The Mexicans in the month of May made their principal feast to their god Vitzilipuztli, and two days before this feast, the virgins whereof I have spoken (the which were shut up and secluded in the same temple and were as it were religious women) did mingle a quantity of the seed of beets with roasted maize, and then they did mould it with honey, making an idol...all the virgins came out of their convent, bringing pieces of paste compounded of beets and roasted maize, which was of the same paste whereof their idol was made and compounded, and they were of the fashion of great bones. They delivered them to the young men, who carried them up and laid them at the idol’s feet, wherewith they filled the whole place that it could receive no more. They called these morsels of paste the flesh and bones of Vitzilipuztli.

...then putting themselves in order about those morsels and pieces of paste, they used certain ceremonies with singing and dancing. By means whereof they were blessed and consecrated for the flesh and bones of this idol. This ceremony and blessing (whereby they were taken for the flesh and bones of the idol) being ended, they honoured those pieces in the same sort as their god....then putting themselves in order about those morsels and pieces of paste, they used certain ceremonies with singing and dancing. By means whereof they were blessed and consecrated for the flesh and bones of this idol. This ceremony and blessing (whereby they were taken for the flesh and bones of the idol) being ended, they honoured those pieces in the same sort as their god...

And this should be eaten at the point of day, and they should drink no water nor any other thing till after noon: they held it for an ill sign, yea, for sacrilege to do the contrary:...and then they gave them to the people in manner of a communion, beginning with the greater, and continuing unto the rest, both men, women, and little children, who received it with such tears, fear, and reverence as it was an admirable thing, saying that they did eat the flesh and bones of God, where-with they were grieved. Such as had any sick folks demanded thereof for them, and carried it with great reverence and veneration.”

...They believed that by consecrating bread their priests could turn it into the very body of their god, so that all who thereupon partook of the consecrated bread entered into a mystic communion with the deity by receiving a portion of his divine substance into themselves.

The doctrine of transubstantiation, or the magical conversion of bread into flesh, was also familiar to the Aryans of ancient India long before the spread and even the rise of Christianity. The Brahmans taught that the rice-cakes offered in sacrifice were substitutes for human beings, and that they were actually converted into the real bodies of men by the manipulation of the priest.

...At the festival of the winter solstice in December the Aztecs killed their god Huitzilopochtli in effigy first and ate him afterwards. - http://www.bartleby.com/196/121.html

There are some differences, but these have far more in common with the Cath idea of the Eucharist than anything seen in Scripture interpretive of the words of the last supper. ^

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277 posted on 06/26/2015 2:41:27 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Thank you. brother, for shining a more intense light upon this heresy. The magic implied by the Vatican and its mystery religion priesthood needs exposure for time is short.


278 posted on 06/26/2015 7:00:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: daniel1212
From one of the 'catholic answers' links above we find the following mumbo jumbo, magic mystery jargon:

Catholics do not do any of this in the Eucharist. [The twisted apologist just defined the aspects of classic cannibalism, done in such a way as to exclude the catholic practice of same in their magic rite] Though Christ is substantially present—body, blood, soul and divinity—in the Eucharist, the accidents of bread and wine remain.

Christ is present, body, blood, soul and divinity, to be cannibalized! I mean, the magic priest brings the Christ down to the cannibalizing 'substantially present', BUT, and this is a corker, the 'accidents' of bread and wine remain.

Mumbo jumbo rickety racks, catholic magic is on their backs. This astonishing 'magic' is what is taught to sincere people who genuinely seek The Lord. Well some, anyway. The devout catholic is unable to see the absolute pagan magic the catholic church is trying to invoke!

And we have sincere catholics on these threads insisting that the circle of reasoning the catholic church has drummed into their confused heads is able to ingest the Life of God into them! I mean, if that is not the epitome of the magic mystery cults ... Ask them where is the blood and flesh at Pentecost or in the house of Cornelius and they scurry after anything else to excuse not thinking past the magic they have been indoctrinated with.

Jesus sat at Passover with His disciples, taking the cups of wine and the unleavened bread IN REMEBRANCE of the Passover of their History.

The first cup of wine was to remember the coming out of Egypt.

The second cup of wine was to remember to get Egypt out of them.

The third cup ... well, for the catholics who remain clueless, the third cup was to be mixed with warm water ... and what came from Jesus's side when the soldier pierced Him with the spear? Blood mixed with water! Still warm from His recent death. BUT the Passover cup was never filled with actual blood, for it was forbidden because the life of the animal is in the blood.

Had Jesus served blood at the Passover remembrance He would have violated the commandment of God begun all the way back in Genesis 9, even before the giving of the law, where it was re-emphasized with Leviticus 3:17.

Jesus had not yet sealed a new covenant with His own blood, so the lie that He could do this serving of His blood to the disciples is specious at best, demonic in the main.

279 posted on 06/26/2015 9:01:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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