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To: ADSUM

The words of a heretic: They are a rogue religion that has no basis in scripture.


As I have not tried to hide it, I agree with some things the Catholics teach and some things the protestants teach.

Not trying to stay in the middle, but can make more people dislike me.

With me it is scripture not denomination.

For instance, and as some one will say( there you go again ) Protestants don`t like me because I believe Jesus was Mary`s only son, but do not have an agenda in mind.

And I also will take what Jesus says above what Paul says if the Protestant`s uses what Paul said to dispute what Jesus said, and they do it all of the time but deny it.

The Catholics don`t like me because I believe Mathew 23 5 through 11 is absolutely literal, meaning titles.

And I believe the eating of the flesh and drinking the blood of Jesus was never intended to be taken literally.


266 posted on 06/20/2015 4:22:00 PM PDT by ravenwolf (t)
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To: ravenwolf

a careful examination of the context of Matthew 23 shows that Jesus didn’t intend for his words here to be understood literally. The whole passage reads, “But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ” (Matt. 23:8–10).

The first problem is that although Jesus seems to prohibit the use of the term “teacher,” in Matthew 28:19–20, Christ himself appointed certain men to be teachers in his Church: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.” Paul speaks of his commission as a teacher: “For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle . . . a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth” (1 Tim. 2:7); “For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher” (2 Tim. 1:11). He also reminds us that the Church has an office of teacher: “God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers” (1 Cor. 12:28); and “his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers” (Eph. 4:11). There is no doubt that Paul was not violating Christ’s teaching in Matthew 23 by referring so often to others as “teachers.”

Why do you believe that when Jesus stated “that His Body and Blood was food and drink for eternal life” were not to be taken literally?

You may wish to read the following article.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-real-presence


274 posted on 06/20/2015 6:09:53 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ravenwolf
>>With me it is scripture not denomination.<<

Obviously not all of scripture. Instead of working to understand all of scripture you stated that you will disregard what Paul said if you think it disagrees with what Jesus said. Here's your quote "I also will take what Jesus says above what Paul says".

I've got news for you, the Holy Spirit inspired the words of scripture. If anyone thinks there are discrepancies they had better understand that it is they who have misunderstood. Taking some words of scripture over other words of scripture is tantamount to claiming the Holy Spirit made a mistake.

300 posted on 06/21/2015 4:02:53 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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