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Was The Papacy Established By Christ?
triablogue ^ | June 23, 2006 | Jason Engwer

Posted on 06/19/2015 12:01:57 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: Lil Flower; MHGinTN
Drama much? You can quote scripture all day long. You can tell me I’m going to hell and involved in sacrilege all you please. But there is absolutely nothing in your attitude or commentary that even remotely seems Christian.

What does a Christian sound like ??

581 posted on 06/22/2015 6:31:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: af_vet_1981

God bless you FRiend. :)

Peace,

SR


582 posted on 06/22/2015 6:32:53 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: RnMomof7
Dear one's last FR post was ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2014‎. Perhaps some on the Mormon caucus can tell us ... oh wait, I don't think there is a Mormon caucus any longer.
583 posted on 06/22/2015 6:50:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

And what is wrong with what I said in post 409? Again I ask, what is my religion? Answer what you thing or shut up. And again I ask, have you been to Colorado recently? Seems from your diatribe you must be smoking something funny...


584 posted on 06/22/2015 7:20:17 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

If you answer my question, then we can go further. BTW, you have no weight to throw around on the Internet. Calm down. As a Christian, I would not be ‘smoking’ anything from Colorado.


585 posted on 06/22/2015 7:23:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Just to help:

In post #409 you stated the following regarding the bread and cup:

So let’s look at what he said...>br> He did not say ‘this becomes my body’, He did not say, ‘this represents my body’. He said this IS my body, this IS my blood.
Take it for what he said. It does not become, it does not represent, It is!

Does that mean what it says, that you agree Jesus said to cannibalize His literal body and blood?


586 posted on 06/22/2015 7:26:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

I loved that poor woman. So wanting that promised celestial marriage and “spirit babies”......I fear her eternity will not be pleasant


587 posted on 06/22/2015 7:55:51 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Makes ya hate satan even more when you witness such a sweet spirit being so completely deceived.


588 posted on 06/22/2015 7:59:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Absolutely not, and if you read and understood what I posted you would know that.

Now answer my question...what is my religion? I asked you that first and you have refused to answer that question.


589 posted on 06/22/2015 8:01:34 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Have nice day, and stay away from drinking blood, even literal blood.


590 posted on 06/22/2015 8:05:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

You, my FRiend, do not understand a lot of what you think you do. No, it is not about drinking blood. It is about your abhorrence of anything that smacks you as Catholic.

You obviously, in your narrow brand of PROTESTANT thinking cannot understand what Jesus said, if it seems to upset your applecart...your RIDGID believe (or is it Non Believe) system.

And since you won’t answer questions put to you, you can go to Protestant Purgatory so that Yeshua can get your head and your heart focused on Him rather than focused on all your perceived adversaries.

If we were to debate in a public forum, Yeshua would win, and I am on his side!


591 posted on 06/22/2015 8:23:19 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


592 posted on 06/22/2015 8:33:03 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Sorry you have such a chip to play with. The Bible is what I have been quoting and using for these threads. The Bible is clear to ALL THEIR GENERATION 'do not eat the blood; do not drink the blood'. You apparently have no idea why, so I'll repeat it for you.

The Bible says the Life is in The Blood. The blood for atonement was to be placed upon the Mercy Seat to cover the law of sin and death. Jesus's LIFE was in His blood before the Resurrection.

With His resurrection He went to the Father, to the Mercy Seat IN HEAVEN and placed His perfect blood upon the Mercy Seat. He does not place His blood in your belly or the bellies of your religious adherents, the Catholics. That would violate His commandment to ALL THEIR GENERATIONS, and Jesus did not violate any of the commandments.

One more little point for your condescending catholic mind: there is a specific reason for Jesus telling Mary not to touch Him yet in the garden that Sunday morning. He had not gone unto His Father yet. Do you know why He told her that, based upon the requirements for the High Priest about to enter the Holy of Holies?

You see, a bully catholic is unable to comprehend the actual means of Salvation nor the actual reality of Sanctification. Why? Because to the catholic mind steeped in rituals as ruled over by the catholic church Nicolatian system, the plan of Salvation is almost the same as that of the Jewish law system ... a catholic is taught to work toward worthiness, the worthiness of God's Grace in Christ.

This works based system ignores what the Bible teaches and ignores the evidence given of the actual Grace hallmarking the Church Age. Perhaps that's why a man like you, steeped in Catholicism's false religion, cannot answer the evidence that men were saved during Peter's teaching at Pentecost as proven by God's Holy Spirit descending INTO these who believed the message and accepted Their Savior. This same proof was evidenced in the house of Cornelius, when the Holy Spirit came INTO the people present for Peter's sermon there, and the Holy Spirit didn't even wait for Peter to finish his sermon!

God's Grace in Christ is contrasted graphically from the Jewish system of trying to follow the laws of Moses for working their way to salvation with the great Church council at Jerusalem.

But you as a steeped catholic cannot get the message because you are under pharisaicesque orders to follow the law of Rome to obtain salvation, eventually, or repeatedly, or maybe, or ... well, even you should get the gist by now.

The only way that you are going to be able to do works of righteousness is if the ONLY righteous LIFE in the Universe is in you. That is ONLY possible because Jesus spread His perfect blood upon the Mercy Seat to cover the laws you will break daily and on FR threads because you are a descendant of Adam and have inherited a fallen nature.

GOD has a plan to put His righteous nature inside of you, but you must be born from above to receive His Life in you. That is in fact the easiest part of all, because all you have to do to be Born from Above is follow the lead of the 3000 saved on Pentecost, or the family and friends in the house of Cornelius. JUST BELIEVE HE IS SAVIOR AND LORD and claim the Promise of God that He will make you a new creation.

THAT is walking in the same faith exhibition as Abraham, and it was counted for him righteousness because his faithing was connected to the work Jesus did on the Cross and in the Holy of Holies. Then He will work on you, to raise you up in the Way that He wants His family members to go.

593 posted on 06/22/2015 8:48:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea; MHGinTN

Everyone here claims to be on the side of Jesus. What Jesus said at the Last Supper about His body and blood is not a hidden mystery, but quite plainly what He said it was, something we do to remember Him, as all who love Him are happy to do. If you have another theory, why not just state it?

Peace,

SR


594 posted on 06/22/2015 8:50:21 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Religion Moderator

Yes, sir or ma’am, I understand that. I have diligently tried to refrain from personalities. MHGinTN made it personal many posts ago, has he been warned? If you read the exchange, you will see.


595 posted on 06/22/2015 8:52:53 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: MHGinTN

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


596 posted on 06/22/2015 9:01:54 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Roger. Should I repost that last essay rewritten for generic application?


598 posted on 06/22/2015 9:06:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Post #409: He did not say ‘this becomes my body’, He did not say, ‘this represents my body’. He said this IS my body, this IS my blood.
Take it for what he said. It does not become, it does not represent, It is!
599 posted on 06/22/2015 9:08:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

No, just keep the focus on the message instead of the messenger from here on.


600 posted on 06/22/2015 9:09:23 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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