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To: JPII Be Not Afraid; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
You still haven't showed me where the words *mortal* or *venial* are found in Scripture.

So lying isn't going to keep someone out of heaven?

It's not listed. Where does that fit in?

You do realize that ANY sin sends someone to hell, don't you? It NEVER specifies between severity of sin. WE are the ones who do that. On the contrary, the Holy Spirit tells us in Scripture.....

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Matter of fact, James says here:

James 2:10-11 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

As for the first passage you mentioned, 1 Corinthians 6, the passage ends with verse 11, which should have been included.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

You left off the most important part. Christians have been FORGIVEN of their sin, even that sin. Otherwise the passage can be misused to support a works based salvation by claiming that one has to keep the law to remain saved.

God's standard is absolute perfection. Jesus told us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. NO ONE can meet that standard, ever.

He didn't say, that some sin is worse than others, or that some sin isn't as bad as others. He didn't tell us to not do the big ones and not sweat the little ones. Nowhere is there any penalty for sin except for death and nowhere is there any solution for sin except for Jesus.

Anything beyond that is fabricated by man.

ALL sin kills. The solution is the same for all sin. Forgiveness by God by grace through faith in the death and shed blood of Jesus, making one born again as a new creation, transferred into God's kingdom, sealed and kept by the Holy Spirit.

127 posted on 06/13/2015 3:47:23 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
I would say that pretty much sums it up.

Salvation is a one time experience. It does not come and go moment by moment. Sanctification is an on going, day by day, moment by moment transformation, from a life of sin, to a life of service. Are we ever going to reach a state of sinlessness? Not in this lifetime, but I don't let sin reign in my mortal body, the way I did when I belonged to a different religious persuasion. I still make a whole lot more mistakes than I wish I did, but it is not like it was before my salvation experience.

Having 100% assurance of salvation, is a great and wonderful thing, and not difficult to understand. Everyone should experience it. 😇 They certainly would have a lot more joy in their lives. 😊

131 posted on 06/13/2015 4:06:17 AM PDT by Mark17 (Through all my days, and then in Heaven above, my song will silence never, I'll worship Him forever)
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To: metmom; JPII Be Not Afraid
You still haven't showed me where the words *mortal* or *venial* are found in Scripture. So lying isn't going to keep someone out of heaven?
It's not listed. Where does that fit in?
You do realize that ANY sin sends someone to hell, don't you? It NEVER specifies between severity of sin. WE are the ones who do that. On the contrary, the Holy Spirit tells us in Scripture.....

Actually where we think of a "lying" as a "small sin"...God does not

Rev 2; 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

The truth is this..heaven will be full of sinners as will hell.. the difference is those in hell have no Savior

183 posted on 06/13/2015 11:27:50 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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