Would a child on its mother's womb be burnt with a saline injection: dismembered by suction, literally pulling them apart? What of the barbarism where a full term baby's head is delivered, and instead of Baptismal water poured on the little one's head, scissors are inserted in the back of the head; the baby's brains sucked out while the skull collapses, and the baby's body delivered- while the mother is there consenting?
Yes that child has not been Baptised, but has it not suffered in innocence, despite original sin? "For my mother and father have abandoned me, but the Lord hath taken me up." And is this not also a Baptism of blood?
What about The Pill, which not only prevents pregnancy, but acts as an abortifacient? Now the Morning After Pill? We believe that a new human being is created by God at the moment of conception. In JPII'S time there came babies conceived in Petri dishes and test tubes, with the unwanted extra babies frozen or discarded.
Councils have been held throughout the centuries for various reasons pertinent to the times. The problems I see with V-II lie more in implementation than doctrine and liturgy. The changes were sweeping; they were drastic changes; the Baltimore Catechism was not replaced until JPII, and we needed one badly, because those who wanted their own agendas promulgated, giving false info in."the spirit of V-II" (ever read "AA1025"? It's about a communist plant. Just as Jesus was subverted from within and suffered, died and rose in His Earthly Body, so it is with His Mystical Body, the Church. Paul VI stated, "the smoke of satan has entered into the Church."
My point is, no matter what we think of individual Popes, they're still elected by the Guidance of the Holy Ghost. There is a in ubiquitous list of bad Popes that pop up on forum. Yet the Church has survived, because "the gates of hell shall not prevail against It.
I'm sorry, Pius, that I lost my cool with you, but I went through it, as I said, and my time away was painful. You can't just deny what is: just persevere. God be with you! PS: I have a BC of my own, as well as a Benzigers Bible History! :)
I actually didn’t take it that you lost your cool with me. I understand that my position is not a welcome one among conciliar Catholics.
Let’s just pray for each other during this time of crisis.
And to answer your question, no it is not Baptism of Blood.
Sorry, I should have written one post.
Bad popes are not the same as heretic popes. Bad popes are Catholics who sin. Heretic popes are non-Catholics which leads to the question of whether they are popes to begin with. Two very different things.