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To: StormPrepper; SZonian
>>I note you didn't address the comments by the other church "leaders" and their claims that the mormon god had sex with Mary to conceive...<<

None of them made that claim. You're projecting your desired outcome onto their statements. If an LDS leader thought God had sex with Mary, they would have said it straight up.

How many more statements do you want on this topic??

Now, we are told in scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father ... Jesus is the only person who had our Heavenly Father as the father of his body." Prophet Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pp.125,126

"The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband." Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 11:268

''When the Virgin Mary conceived Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost...'What a learned idea' Jesus, our elder brother was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in heaven." 'Now Remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject when I replied to this idea-

"If the son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children to be palmed off on the Elders by the people, bringing the Elders into great difficulties."...But what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know but this subject? Comparatively Nothing."—Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1:50-51

995 posted on 06/03/2015 10:25:08 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The poster is incapable of seeing the blasphemy of denying the Holy Spirit, yet that same heresy is repeated over and over by ‘church fathers’ of Moronism.


996 posted on 06/03/2015 10:30:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ealgeone; SZonian
Now, we are told in scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father ... Jesus is the only person who had our Heavenly Father as the father of his body." Prophet Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pp.125,126

You're just dying for it mean sex when a Mormon says it. oooooo....

1 John 4
9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Heb 11
17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,


If you could just twist that pretzel a liiiiittttle bit more you'd have those dog gone Mormons right where you want them...

But before we go on, there's that little problem of how the writers of the books in the Bible use the word "begotten" and "begat".

Genesis 5:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:


Philemon 1
10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:


The list of the usage of Begat and Begotten is quite long so I'll narrow it down to four for the sake of brevity.

Please explain how John's usage of "begotten" is different than everyone else's use of the word "begotten".


1,002 posted on 06/03/2015 12:35:41 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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