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To: metmom

Sure, yeah, stick with that story, then let us know how that works out for you.


787 posted on 06/02/2015 3:14:32 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga; ebb tide; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
et: The sin of presumption is the name given to the belief in eternal assurance; it is presuming on God’s mercy. It is not just a theologically incorrect position to hold, but is also one which is a sin because it makes one proud and think that one has no need of God’s further assistance.

Yeah, well, when Catholics assume that Christians think that way, then is still sounds like the sin of assumption to me.

mm (post 647) Not one person who is saved thinks that they don't need God any more because they are secure in the promises that God made to them.

And I still stand by that.

If one can't presume on God's mercy then nothing is is a given. If you can't count on God's mercy, then you can't count on anything.

If God isn't always merciful, then He isn't the God portrayed to us in Scripture. There's simply no way that anyone who knows how dependent on God's mercy they are is going to be proud of it because the very thing that makes us depend on His mercy is nothing to be proud over.

788 posted on 06/02/2015 3:55:51 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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