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To: ebb tide
This is what JESUS actually says.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:37-39 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.

John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”

Why should I not believe Him?

663 posted on 05/31/2015 7:08:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

But do you really think you have the True Faith? The 9-11 muslim terrorists also “knew” they had the “Faith”.


665 posted on 05/31/2015 7:16:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: metmom; All
Why should I not believe Him?

Because you cherry pick everything. Your use of John is a prime example.

Your ignoring of the whole book of James is another.

Jesus gives an overview of a principle of the gospel and you take that and now it's the be all end of all of the whole doctrine.

The the laws of God are more complex than that. There are stipulations, caveats, and other laws of God that apply.

John 10:I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

Jesus is teaching them that God has all power and they should not fear man. Also, that no has power to effect their salvation.

In no way does it mean that man has immediate spiritual salvation nor does it mean man can never lose it.

The caveats are many. People have to follow the commandments of God and endure to end. This is a huge topic.


703 posted on 06/01/2015 8:00:31 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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