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To: ebb tide; RnMomof7

Matthew 24:13 is talking about the Tribulation period, not the age of grace we are in now.

Romans 11:22 Paul is talking about the Gentile people, not individual believers.

Philippians 2:12 Work it out means work through it NOT to earn it but to mature in it, to become more Christlike.

*Falling* doesn’t necessarily mean losing salvation. One can fall into sin and still be saved. And in some of those cases, God takes them early.

Galatians 5:4, Hebrews 6:4-6 and 10:26-27 DO NOT refer to people who are Christians (and, therefore, saved).

We ALL commit sins after we’re saved. If that is your criteria, as RnMom pointed out recently, you have just nuked your theology of penance and reconciliation.

If your salvation can be lost by sin, then it can be kept by sin and has become a works based salvation, not a faith based salvation.

And then there’s the problem of contradiction with the passages I gave you, that say that our salvation is GUARANTEED by the deposit of the Holy Spirit in us.

So how about telling us how those verses don’t mean guaranteed after all?


645 posted on 05/31/2015 6:29:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Excuses, excuses. The Prot’s have all types of excuses for what the Bible actually states.

Luther taught y’all well!


646 posted on 05/31/2015 6:35:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: metmom
If your salvation can be lost by sin, then it can be kept by sin and has become a works based salvation, not a faith based salvation.

I don't think I have ever a heard of such a weird, contradictory, heretical statement as yours above.

649 posted on 05/31/2015 6:40:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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