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To: RnMomof7
and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Catholic believe this. Faith without works is dead! We do not believe "once saved always saved." You can lose your salvation. Just because I say I believe in Christ, doesn't make it so unless I prove to him I do. My love and forgiveness of others are works. My dedication to Christ is a work. Praying is a work. Helping those in need is a work. It is not just about how much money you give a charity or how much you helped your neighbor, it is your heart that he wants and that my friend is a work. It is not easy to love, pray and forgive my enemy, but I have to if I want enter into Heaven. I think you misunderstand what we call works and what you call works.
118 posted on 05/26/2015 9:09:14 AM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
You do works to get saved...

We do works because we ARE saved...

You do works out of fear...

It is not easy to love, pray and forgive my enemy, but I have to if I want enter into Heaven.

We do works because we love God...

The works you do are useless for your cause...

The works we do are FROM God...He puts those works into our hearts to do them...

125 posted on 05/26/2015 9:49:28 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid; RnMomof7
Catholic believe this. Faith without works is dead! We do not believe "once saved always saved." You can lose your salvation.

How do you square your belief you can lose your salvation away with Ephesians 1:13-14?

130 posted on 05/26/2015 11:01:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
Catholic believe this. Faith without works is dead! We do not believe "once saved always saved."

James was written to a converted church...not people seeking to be saved.. He is saying that the proof of our salvation is the works that flow from it... He does not ever say one is saved by your works or failure to do those works will cost you your salvation

Romanists never know if they have done enough , been good enough to be saved ..

142 posted on 05/26/2015 12:23:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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