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To: CynicalBear
Please, try to read what I have actually posted. Romans is not unfamiliar to me. It is God's Spirit Who woos the spirit of man. BUT that man must accept the Truth when it is pricking at his heart. What do YOU imagine were the pricks Jesus spoke of when He spoke to Saul on his way to Damascus? the particulars I cannot give you, but the theme is emblazoned across the Bible ... Faith cometh by hearing, and hering by The WOrd of God. Faithful is He that calleth you for He will also do it. By Faith Abraham had righteousness accounted to him. Saul knew all of these things. Gamaliel would not have let him loose from studies as a young man had he not learned these key things. And Gam old boy told the Sanhedrin that they better take care what they fought against, for if it be of God they are doomed in their endeavor.

But eno8ugh of my writing. You all know more thn me ... but you do not know the God of the Bible if you even entertain the notion that God forces anyone in this Church Age to Love Him or receive His Son. The Gift of God is His Grace in Christ Jesus.abd each of us will answer for whether we faithe in Him or in our own vain imaginations. When some come to Him and plead this or that life, calling Him Lord, He will say depart from Me, I never knew you. Satan knows Jesus is Lord, but satan will not allow God to be God in him. Any boy, girl, man or woman who will thank Him for His astonishing Gift and let God be God in them, that one Jesus knows! But how can one 'let' if they have no sovereignty over their will? Amazing that such a thing is impossible to hear with some.

893 posted on 06/04/2015 3:40:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
>>Please, try to read what I have actually posted.<<

I have read everything you have posted. It amazes me that you insert snippets of text but seem to fail to understand them in context. You quoted (without attribution for context) from 1 Thessalonians 5:24.

1 Thessalonians 5:24 Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.

It's God who calls and God who brings to pass the act of responding.

Another you quoted is from Romans 4:9.

Romans 4:9 Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the uncircumcised also? For we say, "FAITH WAS CREDITED TO ABRAHAM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS."

Man wants to credit that faith to Abraham but let's look at what scripture really says.

Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith OF the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

It's not our faith by which we are saved it's the faith of Christ instilled or given to us. Look closely at the next verse.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Notice that the "faith" is a gift of God to us. Paul again says;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

It's not our faith but the faith of Christ given to us as a gift from God by which we believe and are saved. God doesn't force us to believe. He gives us the gift of the ability to believe and love. Without that gift we, in our natural state, would not even have the ability to believe or have faith. Man trying to take credit for even as much as a little faith is arrogant. It's God who gives that faith.

Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

905 posted on 06/05/2015 5:57:27 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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