I don't have time to address your entire tome but will say that you seem to missing the point of what smvoice is pointing out. I'll use one example. In your response you reference Acts 13 in an attempt to make a point that Paul also presented the death of Christ as bad news. HE DID NOT. He simply reiterated what had happened then made this comment. “We tell you the good news: What God promised our ancestors 33he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm:. He then went on to say “Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. 39Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses..
And it's interesting that you referenced Acts 13 because we have in that chapter an example of what Peter was preaching at Pentecost.
Acts 13:24 Before the coming of Jesus, John preached repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel.
Peter was preaching essentially the same message as John the Baptist was.
As I said in an earlier post to you. I think you are not taking into consideration the time-line of Peter's message. He clearly changed after Paul was introduced and surely did after the incident with Cornelius.
It seems to me you are being needlessly harsh while missing some points yourself.
The issue was with you, referring to what i was responding to did not necessitate involving the poster who said she(?) was not going to say anymore. Which I concurred that was best, and after the "disgraceful" censures hurled afterwards anyway, then i think that would be best.
t Paul also presented the death of Christ as bad news. HE DID NOT.
He most certainly did, by plainly warning them of the consequences of rejecting the message, and by extension the Christ of it, which is just what Peter did, except that he was addressing the very souls in Jerusalem that personally were culpable to some degree.
Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. (Acts 13:40-41)
Look at what is actually being expressed. That is definitely bad news for rejecting Christ, which is only because Christ came and was slain.
But likewise to Acts 13, what Peter also preached the cross as good news, since this marked the promise of the beginning of the days of salvation in which "whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved," which faith is what they were signifying by being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, confessing Him ever more manifestly than by just the mouth.
. 39Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses..
Which Peter preached to non-Torah souls in Acts 10:43, but a primary HD criteria for a different gospel is that of expressly preaching that Christ died for our sins, which neither Peter or Paul are ever recorded as expressly preaching, but is seen in letters by both Peter and Paul.
And it's interesting that you referenced Acts 13 because we have in that chapter an example of what Peter was preaching at Pentecost. Acts 13:24 Before the coming of Jesus, John preached repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel. Peter was preaching essentially the same message as John the Baptist was.
Not so, "be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost," requires faith in the crucified and risen Holy One, is not the same as the baptism of John, which awaited the Atonement of Christ, and was not that of confessing the Lord Jesus, who Himself was baptized by John.
Instead, it was an extension of the ritual washing of sanctified things, signifying cleansing and dedication, under the rubric of the yearly atonement, and ultimately Christ.
As I said in an earlier post to you. I think you are not taking into consideration the time-line of Peter's message. He clearly changed after Paul was introduced and surely did after the incident with Cornelius.
No, his message did not change, for as explained before, Peter preached to both Jews in Acts 2 and Gentiles in Acts 10 essentially the same message, baptism being that same as confession of faith with mouth in Rm. 10:9,10.
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Acts 2 |
Acts 10 |
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Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (Acts 2:22) |
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (Acts 10:38) |
Subject is Jesus of Nazareth; miracles of God are credentials |
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Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (Acts 2:23) And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. (Acts 3:15) |
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: (Acts 10:39) |
Unjust crucifixion, of which the apostles are witnesses |
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This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. (Acts 2:32) |
Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. (Acts 10:40-41) |
Resurrection, of which the apostles are witnesses |
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For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. (Acts 2:34-35) |
And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. (Acts 10:42) |
Exaltation by God as right hand/judge of all. |
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Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:36) |
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) (Acts 10:36) |
Jesus as Lord preached, sent first to house of Israel |
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And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Acts 2:21) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. (Acts 2:38,39) |
To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Acts 10:43) Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? (Acts 10:47) |
Remission of sins for whosoever shall call upon, believe in (with repentant faith), with confession this faith in baptism coming first in Acts 2, as to do so requires and evidences faith, which appropriates justification. |
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That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:9-13) |
Truly believing in heart justifies, but salvation is promised to those who who call upon the Lord, confess faith, which baptism does, as to do so requires and evidences faith, which appropriates justification. |
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He clearly changed after Paul was introduced and surely did after the incident with Cornelius.
No, as his intro to Paul came before Acts 10, which was attacked as not preaching that Christ died for our sins, and for preaching baptism, which smvoice held as being part of the other gospel. We actually see no more preaching by Peter after Acts 15, in which he affirms what he preached in Acts 10 as being salvation by grace. Only in his epistles do we see clear statements of Christ's death being atonement, which was implicit in Acts 2 and 10, as needed for forgiveness. Thus we see no priesthood in the early NT church, except that of all believers.