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To: editor-surveyor; smvoice; MHGinTN; BereanBrain
>>Paul's response to the Thessalonians when they had been told that a rapture had come and gone was that it was not possible because the man of sin must come first.<<

How interesting that you post that passage to twist what Paul is teaching. The man of sin does NOT come first. You highlighted words in verse three but neglected the part the comes first. Here it is.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

The verse clearly states what comes first but you change it.

Now let's look at that word "apostasy". From Strong's Greek

646 apostasía (from 868 /aphístēmi, "leave, depart," which is derived from 575 /apó, "away from" and 2476 /histémi, "stand") – properly, departure (implying desertion); apostasy – literally, "a leaving, from a previous standing." So we see that a departure comes first before that man of lawlessness is revealed. A leaving comes first. So the verse clearly states what comes first yet you change it. And that's not the only thing you try to change.

You said here that "He who lets is Satan, in the throne room of God." Yet the passage you post clearly indicates that can't possibly be. Continuing on from verse three.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed.

Something or someone is restraining "the son of perdition". So your claiming that Satan restrains the "son of perdition"? It's the anti Christ indwelt by Satan. Satan doesn't restrain his own. Then we continue with verse 7.

2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;

So again we see that it's someone who is restraining that "man of sin and son of perdition". Then in verse 9 we clearly see who that "son of perdition is.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders,

So we see clearly that what you say is first is NOT first. It's the departure, the leaving, that happens first. That's what is referred to as the "catching up" or "rapture" that happens first. Then that "son of perdition" will be revealed.

Twisting scripture in an attempt to make it mean something other than what it does is NOT of God.

221 posted on 05/24/2015 6:06:26 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

It has occurred to me in the past that God allowed certain mistranslations to remain obscured until the time was right to divulge them and sweep the feet from under false teaching. Great job with the Greek meaning, Sir. The great and sudden departing is coming soon ...


225 posted on 05/24/2015 7:11:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: CynicalBear; smvoice; MHGinTN; BereanBrain

It is you that are twisting.

The apostasy, and the coming of the man of sin are one event that is the result of the casting down of Satan to Earth.

That is the taking away of he who lets (Satan) from the throne room of God.

I change nothing, ever.

Nice try on trying to turn the apostasy into a resurrection.

Marvelous magical eisegisis.

Your gymnastics fail on every level.

Apostasy is the turn away from the truth of God’s word.


246 posted on 05/24/2015 2:04:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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