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To: Iscool

Ah, you are making my point for me.

The point is, the first approximately 3.5 years of the tribulation are NOT the wrath of God, they are (like we are undergoing now), the permissive will of God.

That is, God allows evil to exist in this world - we are living in the fallen world.

Now, once the Tribulation begins, he will remove the restrainer, and the rule of the evil one will get MUCH worse.

Right now, Christians are undergoing persecution. They will also do that in the first portion of the Tribulation, as God removes the restrainer, and evil is allowed to wreck havoc on the world.

Then, Jesus will come, and the Wrath of God will begin. Jesus’s second coming will be with a sword!

Even the Pre-Trib Rapture believers acknowledge that Jesus will catch them up in the air (i.e. Jesus will NOT be on the earth in their understanding of the Pre Trib rapture).


121 posted on 05/23/2015 1:32:39 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Um, the restrainer indwells Christians. Will God take some of the restrainer away (and thus the ones indwelt by that portion of the restrainer), or will God take all of the restrainer away as He functions indwelling Christians, leaving His presence as Holy Spirit worked in the time before the Church emerged?


132 posted on 05/23/2015 3:17:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: BereanBrain; Iscool
>>The point is, the first approximately 3.5 years of the tribulation are NOT the wrath of God, they are (like we are undergoing now), the permissive will of God.<<

That entire 7 year period is owed to the nation of Israel alone. It's the last seven years of the 490 promised them in Daniel's prophesies. That is why God is gathering the people of the nation of Israel back to the land they were promised. The "church" cannot be on the earth during that period.

139 posted on 05/23/2015 3:30:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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