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To: MHGinTN

I did NOT miss anything!

Philippians 2:12-Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;

2 Cor 5:10-For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive good or evil, according to what he has done in the body.

Rom 2:6 - For he will render to every man according to his works:

Rom 11:22, Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off.


179 posted on 05/23/2015 8:04:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: G Larry

Do you realize that the passages you posted to try and defend your error are actually about the Heavenly rewards judgment seat of Christ prior to His coming to set foot on the mount of Olives, that that scene is of the Church members individually weighed to appoint rewards not condemnation? I’m afraid you are still missing the point of the lessons. If you are under the mistaken impression that you can do ANYTHING to further what Christ did on the Cross for you, then you are stuck in the cultish rut of ‘after all that I can do to earn the Grace’ mentality common to Mormonism and Catholicism and a host of other splinters from the beam.


180 posted on 05/23/2015 8:17:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: G Larry; MHGinTN
Philippians 2:12-Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

Always good to read a scripture fully and in context

Context ...most likely written when Paul was in prison ..so he could not come and address the problems in the church he founded ...and so he writes to them , to encourage them to resolve their issues WITHOUT HIM

Phil 2:12So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.…

Seemed verse 13 responds to your call for works

2 Cor 5:10-For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive good or evil, according to what he has done in the body.

Remember the church at Corinth was not composed of only the saved ...The unsaved will appear for judgment of sin... The saved before the Bema seat for rewards.... Christ has paid for our sins..they are forgiven and Scripture promises us that God remembers them no more (Isa 43:25)

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Those that have never trusted in the finished work of Christ need to have great fear of that judgement ...

183 posted on 05/23/2015 12:19:20 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: G Larry
Here's is a commentary which might help you to understand the section from Romas 11 from which you lifted a single passage:

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

11:11-21 The gospel is the greatest riches of every place where it is. As therefore the righteous rejection of the unbelieving Jews, was the occasion of so large a multitude of the Gentiles being reconciled to God, and at peace with him; the future receiving of the Jews into the church would be such a change, as would resemble a general resurrection of the dead in sin to a life of righteousness. Abraham was as the root of the church. The Jews continued branches of this tree till, as a nation, they rejected the Messiah; after that, their relation to Abraham and to God was, as it were, cut off. The Gentiles were grafted into this tree in their room; being admitted into the church of God.

Multitudes were made heirs of Abraham's faith, holiness and blessedness. It is the natural state of every one of us, to be wild by nature. Conversion is as the grafting in of wild branches into the good olive. The wild olive was often ingrafted into the fruitful one when it began to decay, and this not only brought forth fruit, but caused the decaying olive to revive and flourish.

The Gentiles, of free grace, had been grafted in to share advantages. They ought therefore to beware of self-confidence, and every kind of pride or ambition; lest, having only a dead faith, and an empty profession, they should turn from God, and forfeit their privileges. If we stand at all, it is by faith; we are guilty and helpless in ourselves, and are to be humble, watchful, afraid of self-deception, or of being overcome by temptation. Not only are we at first justified by faith, but kept to the end in that justified state by faith only; yet, by a faith which is not alone, but which worketh by love to God and man.

Just remember please that when God says NO MAN can take the Saved from His hands, that includes any man confessing The Lord Jesus, that includes you and me if we have the simple profession found in John 3:16 and echoed in Matthew 16:16 by Peter, and in the House of Cornelius, and by Paul everywhere on his mission trips, and most importantly by Jesus speaking to those of the scribes and Pharisees who asked Him what is the work of God that they must do to be saved (Believe on Him Whom He has sent)..

218 posted on 05/25/2015 9:38:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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