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What's Wrong with a Little Indulgence?
CatholicCulture.org ^ | not given | Jimmy Aking

Posted on 05/20/2015 8:17:11 AM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 05/20/2015 8:17:12 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

“Indulgences are the remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven” (q. 312).

Ping!


2 posted on 05/20/2015 8:20:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

This article should be about Bill and Hillary. Their “Foundation” has become the secular grantor of indulgences.


3 posted on 05/20/2015 8:46:44 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty

LOL!

But indulgences in the Catholic Church are quite different than that.


4 posted on 05/20/2015 8:48:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
[Pullquote]

But if a penalty follows from the internal logic of the offense itself, how can it be remitted?

By God changing the person so that the consequence no longer follows.

5 posted on 05/20/2015 8:59:26 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Salvation

Jimmy hits another home run.


6 posted on 05/20/2015 9:10:45 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: Salvation
Great post!

Worth noting: "Both partial and plenary indulgences can be applied either to oneself or to the departed by way of prayer (norm 3)." There are souls who would have no one to pray and make sacrifices for them if people who believed did not. It's important to remember these souls, and pray for them every day. Also, I think we do a great injustice to people we love if we assume they went straight to Heaven and don't pray for them. Only God knows, and we can't take that chance when we could be helping them.

The souls pray for us, and that's a beautiful thing.

"A special plenary indulgence is granted for the dying. This is normally included in the last rites, but in the event a priest is not present, the Church grants a plenary indulgence to the faithful "at the point of death, provided they are properly disposed and have been in the habit of reciting some prayers during their lifetime" (norm 18)."
I never knew that. My Mom died unexpectedly. I'll never stop praying for her, but that part was something of which I was unaware, and it's a great comfort to know. Thank you for the post. 🌟

7 posted on 05/20/2015 9:57:49 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Grateful2God

Well put!


8 posted on 05/20/2015 10:17:31 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Salvation
It's Wittenberg! /Young Frankenstein
9 posted on 05/20/2015 10:38:34 AM PDT by Moltke
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Thank you, friend! Nice to see your name there! God bless you!


10 posted on 05/20/2015 10:47:54 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Salvation
Something to think about...

Heroic Act of Charity

A decree of the Sacred Congregation of Indulgences dated 18 December, 1885, and confirmed the following day by Leo XIII, says:

The Heroic Act of Charity in favour of the souls detained in purgatory consists in this, that a member of the Church militant (Christifidelis), either using a set formula or simply by an act of his will, offers to God for the souls in purgatory all the satisfactory works which he will perform during his lifetime, and also all the suffrages which may accrue to him after his death. Many Christians devoted to the B.V. Mary, acting on the advice of the Theatine Regular Cleric Father Gaspar Olider, of blessed memory, make it a practice to deposit the said merits and suffrages as it were into the hands of the Bl. Virgin that she may distribute these favours to the souls in purgatory according to her own merciful pleasure.

Olider lived at the beginning of the eigtheenth century.

The Heroic Act is often called a vow, yet it partakes more of the nature of an offering made to God and to Mary, and it is also, unlike a vow, revocable at will. (Excerpt)

Wilhelm, J. (1910). Heroic Act of Charity. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. Retrieved May 20, 2015 from New Advent: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07292b.htm

11 posted on 05/20/2015 11:22:53 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Salvation
I believe many misunderstandings and confusion comes from Church leaders thinking it is only them who can rightly interpret what Jesus told us. While that is true on some counts the Church leaders did tell us. The Church leaders were the 12 apostles who were with Jesus from the beginning of his ministry until his resurrection. These leaders was represented by the apostle Peter, did Peter leave something out on the day of Pentecost in acts 2 when he was filled with the holy spirit? Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Matthew 25:31-46 Tells us very plainly who the sheep and the goats are and what will be their destination. James explains what Jesus is talking about. James 2 15 And if a brother or sister be naked, and want daily food: 16 And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit? 17 So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. 1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. Deed and truth is what James is talking about. But the Church leaders are not satisfied with the explanations already given before the Bible was even a book because it gives them no authority. They have to add more meanings to a word or sentence in order to confuse it, other wise the congregation will know as much as they do and they will lose their importance. And this is not only in the Catholic Church but also in many protestant Churches. An abomination is still an abomination. And Jesus is still the only mediator between a believer and God. 
12 posted on 05/20/2015 11:49:14 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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“I believe many misunderstandings and confusion comes from Church leaders thinking it is only them who can rightly interpret what Jesus told us.”

As G. K. Chesterton wrote of the Catholic Church, “There is no other case of one continuous intelligent institution that has been thinking about thinking for two thousand years. Its experience naturally covers nearly all experiences; and especially nearly all errors. The result is a map in which all the blind alleys and bad roads are clearly marked, all the ways that have been shown to be worthless by the best of all evidence: the evidence of those who have gone down them.”

So you see, it’s not that only the Church *can* “rightly interpret what Jesus told us.” After all, whatever God wills *can* happen.

It is rather that only the Catholic Church *does* offer the most complete and correct interpretation available from mortal man. The various protestant denominations all reject some correct interpretations, or have adopted incorrect doctrine, and are therefore less comprehensive sources.

Catholic writings form an incredible resource, more than anyone could study and integrate in a single lifetime. I couldn’t possibly hope to get through Summa Theologica alone in the years remaining to me, and that work, monumental as it is, is but a crumb to the whole.

Never have I failed to find a satisfactory, or perhaps inspiring, answer to any question.


13 posted on 05/20/2015 1:59:13 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ravenwolf

“And Jesus is still the only mediator between a believer and God.”

What is a mediator? If someone prays for me, is that person a mediator?


14 posted on 05/20/2015 2:01:13 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

What is a mediator? If someone prays for me, is that person a mediator?


I don`t know, I am only saying what Paul believed on this particular issue.

1Timothy 2
5 For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus:


15 posted on 05/20/2015 2:34:31 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: dsc

Never have I failed to find a satisfactory, or perhaps inspiring, answer to any question.


Being contented with what you believe is a good thing I guess.


16 posted on 05/20/2015 2:42:15 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Salvation
I'll take all the help I can get.

Gawd, do scoffers make their lives more miserable by scoffing.

17 posted on 05/20/2015 3:37:45 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: ravenwolf

“Being contented with what you believe is a good thing I guess.”

My, how insulting.

I am reminded of something Thomas Sowell wrote: “It is amazing how many people think that they can answer an argument by attributing bad motives to those who disagree with them. Using this kind of reasoning, you can believe or not believe anything about anything, without having to bother to deal with facts or logic.”


18 posted on 05/20/2015 7:03:03 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ravenwolf

“I don`t know, I am only saying what Paul believed on this particular issue.”

If you don’t know what a mediator is, you couldn’t possibly know what Paul was saying, nor whether your thinking is in concord therewith.


19 posted on 05/20/2015 7:04:52 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

My, how insulting.


You took it wrong.

What I meant was that it may be a good thing to be contented with what you believe.

I have not had that experience.


20 posted on 05/20/2015 7:12:29 PM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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