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To: terycarl
Interesting. According to usccb.org. The CCC seems to hold more importance than you realize. A few entries:

"Is the doctrinal authority of the Catechism equal to that of the dogmatic definitions of a pope or ecumenical council?

By its very nature, a catechism presents the fundamental truths of the faith which have already been communicated and defined. Because the Catechism presents Catholic doctrine in a complete yet summary way, it naturally contains the infallible doctrinal definitions of the popes and ecumenical councils in the history of the Church. It also presents teaching which has not been communicated and defined in these most solemn forms. This does not mean that such teaching can be disregarded or ignored. Quite to the contrary, the Catechism presents Catholic doctrine as an organic whole and as it is related to Christ who is the center. A major catechism, such as the Catechism of the Catholic Church, presents a compendium of Church teachings and has the advantage of demonstrating the harmony that exists among those teachings. p> Is the doctrinal authority of the Catechism equal to the documents of the Second Vatican Council?

Just as the Catechism contains the most solemnly defined dogmas of the Church, it also contains the teachings of the Second Vatican Council. The worldwide consultation of the bishops that preceded the promulgation of the Catechism gives it a collegial character. It is, as Pope John Paul II said, "the result of a collaboration of the whole episcopate." It would seem, however, that the Catechism did not have the benefit of the complete exercise of effective collegiality that accompanies the writing, disputation, revision, consensus, agreement and eventual promulgation of documents of an ecumenical council. But it must be noted that the form of a catechism is distinct from the form of conciliar documents. They are complimentary, but they are not identical.

Does this mean that the Catechism can be disregarded?

No. The Catechism is part of the Church's ordinary teaching authority. Pope John Paul II placed his apostolic authority behind it. Its doctrinal authority is proper to the papal Magisterium. In Fidei Depositum John Paul II termed the Catechism a "sure norm for teaching the faith" and "a sure and authentic reference text." He asked "the Church's pastors and the Christian faithful to receive this catechism in a spirit of communion and to use it assiduously in fulfilling their mission of proclaiming the faith and calling people to the Gospel life."

Bold/italics mine

It appears you may not be properly carechized as it appears you are in major disagreement with Rome!! Not only Rome, but a Pope's apostolic authority!!

Now...the question again: do you agree with the CCC and profess to worship the same "God" as the Muslims or are you denouncing the CCC's just proven authority and rebelling against Rome by disagreeing?

Hoss

588 posted on 05/15/2015 2:45:10 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: terycarl; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...
terycarlis correct that the Catechism is not an infallible document, it is indeed the opinion of men and can be changed as they wish to "massage ' their doctrine .. it was not written by the Magistruim and so does not fall under the infallibility dogma

But the fact that the version that would be in current use would have been approved by the pope and the magisterium would place it in the category of not having anything in it that is opposition to rome teaching .It would hold the imprimatur .

"The nihil obstat and imprimatur are declarations that a book or pamphlet is free of doctrinal or moral error. No implication is contained therein that those who have granted the nihil obstat or imprimatur agree with the contents, opinions or statements expressed.[7] "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprimatur

You have to keep in mind that dogmas can be changed or eliminated as they wish

666 posted on 05/15/2015 7:30:23 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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