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To: Dutchboy88; Boogieman
"According as he hath CHOSEN us in Him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, that we should be holy and blameless before him in love;"(Eph. 1:4).

"That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES he might gather together in one all things in Christ..."(Eph. 1:10)

"And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"(Eph. 3:9).

This tells me all I need to know about His Omniscience": He KNOWS. He knows it so well that before He even set the foundation of the world, He had ALREADY chosen us in Him.

192 posted on 05/14/2015 5:28:06 PM PDT by smvoice ("You will be suspected until you are cleared of all suspicion...."...)
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To: smvoice; Dutchboy88

“He had ALREADY chosen us in Him.”

Ah, but did he choose what you had for breakfast this morning? Or if someone chooses to commit murder, did God make that choice for them?

That’s what we are really arguing about. Not election or predestination, but absolutely predetermination, where free will in all matters is only an illusion.


194 posted on 05/14/2015 6:02:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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