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Was The Papacy Established By Christ? (Part 2)
triablogue ^ | June 24, 2006 | Jason Engwer

Posted on 05/02/2015 12:50:12 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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1 posted on 05/02/2015 12:50:12 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; HossB86; Iscool; ...

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2 posted on 05/02/2015 12:50:41 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

No.

Next question.


3 posted on 05/02/2015 12:56:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RnMomof7

I believe she’s obsessed.


4 posted on 05/02/2015 1:02:45 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: RnMomof7

...”Was The Papacy Established By Christ?”....

Not at all....the Roman Clergy simply wanted the same royal honor and “dress” they saw in local administrations throughout Rome at that time, thus showing the people the unity of Rome and the Church on equal footing in appearances, power and authority in the eyes of the uninformed public....... It’s been “add on’s” ever since.


5 posted on 05/02/2015 1:03:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: RnMomof7
Question: "Was the Papacy established by Christ?"

Answer: No.

6 posted on 05/02/2015 1:15:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: RnMomof7

“it is clear that in Cyprian’s mind,...” I stopped right there.

I love it when protestants quote Catholics who are READING THE MIND of the ancient dead Cyprian.

This must be more of the protestant divinely inspired personal interpretation.

AMDG


7 posted on 05/02/2015 2:00:47 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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I love it when protestants quote Catholics who are READING THE MIND of the ancient dead Cyprian.

Just proves Romanism is not infallible huh ?

8 posted on 05/02/2015 2:45:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

You dont even get the logical fallacy of your quoting prominent Catholic authors who disagree with the magisterium.

The best part is they (cyprian,et al) are DEAD and their opinions didnt prevail because they were just their opinions not like their protestant brethern, all of who’s opinions are divinely inspired just because their protestant.

AMDG


9 posted on 05/02/2015 2:52:59 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: RnMomof7

Catholics will be along any minute now to show scriptural proof of the position of pope......any minute now.......maybe a few minutes................um..........maybe not.


10 posted on 05/02/2015 3:47:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom

Article posted by a lapsed Catholic and now seconded by a lapsed Catholic. So it must be true!

“All the evil in the world is due to lukewarm Catholics”.
Pope Pius V


11 posted on 05/02/2015 4:15:41 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: RnMomof7
Part TWO!!??!!

You mean there's MORE of this stuff???

12 posted on 05/02/2015 4:34:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LurkingSince'98
The best part is they (cyprian,et al) are DEAD and their opinions didnt prevail because they were just their opinions

What about "neither will I ever take and interpret [the scriptures] otherwise than according to the unanimous consent of the Fathers"?

Cyprian is supposed to endorse the primacy of Peter in the text of "The Unity of the Catholic Church", but I can't find the support.

Cyprian - Surely the rest of the Apostles also were that which Peter was, endowed with an equal partnership of office and of power.

I guess I should read more of Cyprian's text... But it seems like another case of Catholic quotes and assertions saying the exact opposite of what they say.

13 posted on 05/02/2015 5:59:04 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: RnMomof7

The more RCCs I meet, whom I had no idea of their faith, the more convinced I have become that they really have no basic faith in Christ, but they very much hate those who simply believe in Him.


14 posted on 05/02/2015 6:04:43 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Tao Yin

your laughable

again your a protestant quoting a Catholic and taking ONE QUOTE from him as definitive rejection of the primacy of Peter.

Cyprian
At a Glance
Treatise
Genre:
(4/5) *****
Reliability of Dating:
(3/5) ***
Length of Text:
Greek
Original Language:
Ancient Translations:
Modern Translations:
English

Estimated Range of Dating: 246-258 A.D.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/cyprian.html

Ante-Nicene Fathers: Cyprian

Just what part of “Cyprian does not have any more sway as to the Primacy of Peter than you do” do you not understand?

Neither Cyprian’s nor your private personal interpretation on the primacy of Peter is significant as it is MERELY YOUR OPINION.

You’re just another protestant who thinks his opinion is better than the Majesterium of the Catholic Church.

Only in your dreams.

AMDG


15 posted on 05/02/2015 7:14:25 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: Cvengr

What you think about Catholics means nothing to Catholics.

BTW are you one of the protestants who is going to stay home tomorrow and ‘Church himself’?

the more protestants who I’ve heard give their interpretation of a single Scripture reading - the more DIFFERENT “inspired” meanings I hear.

you can’t even agree amongst yourselves on one verse - why again should a Catholic care what you think?

AMDG


16 posted on 05/02/2015 7:20:40 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
What you think about Catholics means nothing to Catholics.

Good. It's not what I think that matters. It is what God Provides us by His Word that matters, which is why I witness the passages in Matthew and Mark.

17 posted on 05/03/2015 1:08:16 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

My apologies.

I thought you were responding to this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3283994/posts?page=964#964


18 posted on 05/03/2015 1:30:23 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr
The more RCCs I meet, whom I had no idea of their faith, the more convinced I have become that they really have no basic faith in Christ, but they very much hate those who simply believe in Him.

How true. And how sad.

Hoss

19 posted on 05/03/2015 6:31:23 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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BTW are you one of the protestants who is going to stay home tomorrow and ‘Church himself’?

You should consider having that printed on a cereal box. It seems to be a daily staple of your posting diet.

20 posted on 05/03/2015 7:30:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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