[stanne]

Hence his term ‘misunderstanding’

Teaching is teaching

Leading is leading

Converting is converting

They are different words because they mean different things

You don’t think a man like the bishop with not only a doctorate in theology but a maters in philosophy and theology uses precise words and has a dictionary?

It’s not that I mean to be sarcastic. It’s just that the license to put down the Catholic Church and its associates is so abused

He’s not Lil Boosie or even Greg gurgled. He uses exact words for their meaning and people come in and treat his statements like they’re something out of a celebrity on the Jon Stewart show

He’s simply saying that conversion is between the cover red and God. That Catholics don’t convert others nor pretend to be able to do so. They teach, lead and assist

St Francis himself who had a great conversion, said, preach the Gospel. And if necessary, use words’

[dadfly]

again brother, all i can say is the my heart disagrees with the wording of the quote in the article as i, as just another sinner, interpret and understand Scripture, but agree’s whole heartedly with your words as quoted in a previous post.

if it helps, i can, as just another sinner in the body of Christ, easily rewrite the article quote so i can agree with it:

through God (as was the case with John the Baptist evangelization or, “conversion is” [remove not] “a business of a pastor or missionary.”

and with that i’m moving on with thanks and a blessing directed at you, brother.

[ebb tide]

St Francis himself who had a great conversion, said, preach the Gospel. And if necessary, use words’

St Francis never uttered the phrase you quoted above.

But see, here’s the thing. St. Francis never said that. We don’t know who did. But it wasn’t Francis. It’s not in any of his known writings. It’s not in any of his companions’ writings. It’s not in anyone’s writings about Francis for the first 800 or so years after his death.

[piusv]

St. Francis, "a man who was truly Catholic and apostolic," in the same admirable fashion that he had attended to the reformation of the faithful, so likewise set about personally and commanded his disciples to occupy themselves before everything else with the conversion of the heathen to the Faith and Law of Christ.

-Pope Pius XI, Rite Expiatis, 1926

St Francis worked for the conversion of non-Catholics. The pre-VII Church worked for the conversion of non-Catholics because it truly taught and believed in "Outside the Catholic Church there is No Salvation". The post VII Church teaches false ecumenism.