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To: metmom; ealgeone

Why is it so critical to either yourself or to Catholics to declare that Mary is the mother of GOD?


For me, it is not about what the Catholic Church says nor is it about Mary. You are absolutely correct that Mary did not pre-exist God. Nor did she give Him His divinity.

It is about Jesus and what He did for us as described in Philippians 2:6-8:

“Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross.”

He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to death. He also humbled Himself by being obedient to Mary. Even though she was highly favored, she was still a human being, and for God to be obedient to a creature, or to call her mother, had to be demeaning to Him. Although there were times He had to remind Mary of His divinity, He was obedient to her as part of His redemptive actions to bring us to Salvation.

A secondary reason is that Scripture so clearly reveals that this child that Mary brought forth is God. A woman becomes a mother in the very act of giving birth to a child, and is a mother to all that the child is. It is in this way that Mary can be called the mother of God. Not that she gave this holy child his divinity; but that she gave birth to this divine child.


222 posted on 05/02/2015 2:57:17 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to death. He also humbled Himself by being obedient to Mary. Even though she was highly favored, she was still a human being, and for God to be obedient to a creature, or to call her mother, had to be demeaning to Him. Although there were times He had to remind Mary of His divinity, He was obedient to her as part of His redemptive actions to bring us to Salvation.

Oh good grief. Are you saying Jesus was only obedient to Mary? Did He tell Joseph were to get off? Was He not "obedient" to other adults??

The catholic desire to read into the text something that's not there has lead to this false teaching.

If anything, Mary is obedient to Jesus and will be obedient to Jesus.

The catholic has it completely backwards.

A secondary reason is that Scripture so clearly reveals that this child that Mary brought forth is God.

Using catholic "logic", then Mary is the mother of the Holy Spirit.

Again, none of what the catholic purports the scriptures to say are true regarding this.

231 posted on 05/02/2015 4:06:18 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: rwa265
Not that she gave this holy child his divinity; but that she gave birth to this divine child.

Then there's no way that she can be called *mother of God*.

Mother of Jesus is the ONLY appropriate and accurate title to be given her, just as the Holy Spirit inspired the writer's of the NT to do.

234 posted on 05/02/2015 4:08:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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