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Apparently you Protestants are not asserting your own “broken record” despite the fact that many leading and eminent Protestant theologians after years of careful and extensive study, some deliberately setting out to prove the Catholic Church wrong, have not only converted to Catholicism but have reached the obvious conclusion what Dr. David Anders, a former Protestant theological scholar sums up thus:

“I also realized that Protestantism was a confused mass of inconsistencies and tortured logic. Not only was Protestant doctrine untrue, it bred contention, and could not even remain unchanged. The more I studied, the more I realized that my evangelical heritage had moved far not only from ancient Christianity, but even from the teaching of her own Protestant founders.”

Enough said. You can see for yourself now why you don’t like us Catholics bringing up the rotten and vacuous mass of Protestant scriptural interpretations from Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, and Billy Graham right down to your corner street Fousquare Church pastor. These folks use religion to amass a nice personal fortune for themselves and their families because there are always enough shallow-minded Protestants to fill up the pews long after their theologians have branded Protestantism an embarrassment.

This goes for all the black AME Churches (an utter joke) to all the Evangelicals who offer us “their” own varied and contradictory twisted interpretations of scripture.

Yet Protestants have the gall to question the very Petrine infallibility that gave us the canonical texts and as understood by the early Church fathers, saints and martyrs.


75 posted on 05/01/2015 9:02:46 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

>Apparently you Protestants<

You have completely misjudged me. I find Protestant teachings almost as wrong as RC teachings. For instance, both believe that the epistle of James is canonical. Both are wrong. James taught that Christians must keep the OC Law to establish and maintain salvation. His epistle originates from the first two decades of the Church when it was still nothing more than a sect of Judaism. Paul proved that virtually everything taught in the epistle of James was unChristian.


81 posted on 05/01/2015 9:22:53 PM PDT by DeprogramLiberalism (<- a profile worth reading)
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To: Steelfish; aMorePerfectUnion; DeprogramLiberalism
Apparently you Protestants are not asserting your own “broken record” despite the fact that many leading and eminent Protestant theologians after years of careful and extensive study, some deliberately setting out to prove the Catholic Church wrong, have not only converted to Catholicism but have reached the obvious conclusion what Dr. David Anders, a former Protestant theological scholar sums up thus: “I also realized that Protestantism was a confused mass of inconsistencies and tortured logic. Not only was Protestant doctrine untrue, it bred contention, and could not even remain unchanged. The more I studied, the more I realized that my evangelical heritage had moved far not only from ancient Christianity, but even from the teaching of her own Protestant founders.” Enough said.

Really? I found the quote no more compelling than all the previous times you posted it. As AMPU pointed out, even if the author's credentials were as impressive as you claimed, it still amounts to an appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. [I would also point out that your insistence of a flood of conversions to Catholicism which is used as support for your position is also a logical fallacy, appeal to popularity. Besides, there is no evidence that such a movement is actually taking place.]

You can see for yourself now why you don’t like us Catholics bringing up the rotten and vacuous mass of Protestant scriptural interpretations from Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, and Billy Graham right down to your corner street Fousquare Church pastor.

I object because it doesn't prove anything but seems to be designed to be argumentative and dismissive. Their errors don't disprove the standard Protestant position any more than the list of bad Popes or pedophile priests disprove the standard Catholic position. It is nothing but another type of ad hominem argument, the association fallacy.

These folks use religion to amass a nice personal fortune for themselves and their families because there are always enough shallow-minded Protestants to fill up the pews long after their theologians have branded Protestantism an embarrassment.

Painting with a bit of a broad brush, aren't we? [BTW, that is also a logical fallacy.] It is true that some pastors have fleeced their flocks for personal gain. It is not new - don't forget that was one of the problems that led to a Reformation - clergy exploiting peasants by selling indulgences and other abuses to enrich themselves. You need to get out a bit more. In my circle of acquaintances, I know several Protestant pastors who work an outside job (or 2) to keep their small churches afloat and they aren't getting rich, nor have that desire. I know several Protestant missionaries who have made huge financial sacrifices to spread the Gospel.

Yet Protestants have the gall to question the very Petrine infallibility that gave us the canonical texts and as understood by the early Church fathers, saints and martyrs.

Protestants question this because Catholics have never proven it true (despite bellicose assertions and feigned outrage that someone dare question it). Protestants believe Jesus Christ when He told us that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth (John 16:13). The Holy Spirit does not need Peter or his successors nor an institutionalized church to accomplish His mission.

86 posted on 05/02/2015 8:21:22 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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