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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“None of the inspired writers were infallible. God “moved them” as He willed, to write his word.”

This is not the point we are discussing. There were hundreds of fragments of writings and these were painstakingly sorted out for nearly 300 years and in the Synod of Rome AD 382, the canonical texts as sorted out by the early Church fathers were both, declared infallible as the Word of God and were “infallibly” assembled by Peter’s successors.

Protestantism came on to the scene 11 centuries later. All the saints, martyrs, theologians then and now have agreed that the CatholicChurch is the Church Christ founded by Peter. And whatever it binds or loosens on earth will be bound or loosened in heaven. That Petrine infallibility, never went away.

The lives of saints, martyrs, stigmatists, and theologians compel the conclusion of One Church, and One Truth, and for All times. It cannot be otherwise.

The doctrine and teaching of this one truth is the same in every church form Timbuktu to Russia to Alaska.

This is different from the neighborhood Foursquare Church pastors where congregants migrate from one church to another until the pastor interprets scripture acquiring to “their” views. This could be a gay pastor, or a Rev. Wright, or a Joel Osteen.


44 posted on 04/29/2015 7:07:40 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

“This is not the point we are discussing. There were hundreds of fragments of writings and these were painstakingly sorted out for nearly 300 years and in the Synod of Rome AD 382, the canonical texts as sorted out by the early Church fathers were both, declared infallible as the Word of God and were “infallibly” assembled by Peter’s successors.”

The inspired texts were inspired before any declaration occurred. As to the process, it started long, long before any Roman declaration - as Christ’s Assembly started long, long before the rise of the Roman church.

I commend for your reading sites such as this one that delve more into the earlier historical development of the canon we know today.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon1.html

“Protestantism came on to the scene 11 centuries later. “

No problem. God has no grandchildren. Only children. The Bride of Christ was purposed in eternity in the mind and heart of God.

“All the saints, martyrs, theologians then and now have agreed that the Catholic Church is the Church Christ founded by Peter.”

By your own words, it is all they to knew. God, however, did not fail to keep His Word to be with His assembly always. When Rome failed, He was faithful.

“And whatever it binds or loosens on earth will be bound or loosened in heaven. That Petrine infallibility, never went away.”

Nor did “Petrine infallibility” ever exist.

“The lives of saints, martyrs, stigmatists [ha! These are the Roman Snake Handlers], and theologians compel the conclusion of One Church, and One Truth, and for All times. It cannot be otherwise.”

Well, friend, I certainly understand your repeated claims and insistence of this, but having examined it, I find it wanting as a doctrine and worse as Biblical teaching. So do hundreds of millions of others. As such, there is nothing compelling, unless it is “pre-believed” and read back into Scripture.

“The doctrine and teaching of this one truth is the same in every church form Timbuktu to Russia to Alaska.”

McDonald’s can make a very similar claim. Scripture does not on most issues.

“This is different from the neighborhood Foursquare Church pastors where congregants migrate from one church to another until the pastor interprets scripture acquiring to “their” views. This could be a gay pastor, or a Rev. Wright, or a Joel Osteen.”

You selectively choose your straw men to make your argument, but reality does not line up with your preferred argument - any more than a few hundred pedophile priests are emblematic of all roman priests. It really doesn’t help your argument from my perspective to pretend otherwise. It weakens your argument, which I don’t think you want.

Kindest regards.


45 posted on 04/29/2015 7:31:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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