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To: Springfield Reformer

You play games with this.

There are no “originals” of anything.

Its not the Hebrew “thought patterns,” but the completely ignorant translation devoid of understanding of the very core of what the original authors taught.

If the Apostles had done the translation to Greek the understanding of the Hebrew traditions would not have been so completely muffed. They were obviously done by someone with a totally secular Roman education, not by a Hebrew apostle that had lived their entire life day by day in those traditions.

Yeshua’s first miracle is a good example. Each of the miracles was centered on the demolition of one of the Pharisees’ Takanot. The making of wine was done in the ceremonial hand washing pots, thus slamming the “washing of the hands.” But there was no hint that the translator of John’s gospel had the slightest understanding of that event.

Do you think John understood?

All of the epistles are jammed full of clumsy misunderstandings of what was being discussed. Every time one of the feasts is mentioned, it is called “a feast of the Jews,” but no Jew would have looked at them in that manner; they knew that the feasts were for the world, and that those that failed to respect them were buying curses and damnation upon themselves and their nations.

Most Christians are so poorly schooled on what the entire Bible is all about that these things mean nothing to them, but to all that have studied the word fully they stand out like a sore thumb.

Its like the difference between a “Little Golden Book” version, and an upper division text book.

If its not for you, OK, but please don’t try to snow those that understand. That is way below your level.
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969 posted on 05/02/2015 8:47:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Objections anticipated and duly noted. I leave the reader to make up their own minds. Have a good weekend. :)

Peace,

SR


973 posted on 05/02/2015 9:08:23 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: editor-surveyor; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
Its not the Hebrew “thought patterns,” but the completely ignorant translation devoid of understanding of the very core of what the original authors taught. If the Apostles had done the translation to Greek the understanding of the Hebrew traditions would not have been so completely muffed....All of the epistles are jammed full of clumsy misunderstandings of what was being discussed.

Which is akin to Gnosticism. The "understanding of the Hebrew traditions" by an esoteric few means that for about 2000 years at best only a scintilla number of souls have had the word of God, since what we do have in thousands of mss and translations is a completely muffed understanding of the Hebrew traditions, full of clumsy misunderstandings, devoid of understanding of the very core.

I am amazed you even call them Christians who are outside your tiny cultic clan who alone have the true word of God.

Yeshua’s first miracle is a good example. Each of the miracles was centered on the demolition of one of the Pharisees’ Takanot. The making of wine was done in the ceremonial hand washing pots, thus slamming the “washing of the hands.” But there was no hint that the translator of John’s gospel had the slightest understanding of that event.

Meaning the Holy Spirit, since He did not inspire the writer to add this commentary.

Every time one of the feasts is mentioned, it is called “a feast of the Jews,” but no Jew would have looked at them in that manner; they knew that the feasts were for the world, and that those that failed to respect them were buying curses and damnation upon themselves and their nations.

Meaning you blame the Holy Spirit, since He did not inspire the writer to say "feast of the world." And thus virtually all but some basically invisible elitists have been buying curses and damnation upon themselves and their nations by believing the Bible the way it was written.

Most Christians are so poorly schooled on what the entire Bible is all about that these things mean nothing to them, but to all that have studied the word fully they stand out like a sore thumb.

No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you. (Job 12:2)

Or without your esoterical elitist clan

Its like the difference between a “Little Golden Book” version, and an upper division text book. If its not for you, OK, but please don’t try to snow those that understand. That is way below your level.

Meaning we are all below your level, just as Rome looks at Prots, supposing she uniquely knows what Scripture means above that of others, with her amorphous tradition. Elitists against Elitists

990 posted on 05/03/2015 10:56:19 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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