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To: editor-surveyor; MHGinTN
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

We trust God to keep His promises. You should to.

771 posted on 05/01/2015 5:29:19 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; MHGinTN

But he has not get given that eternal life.

As he explained to Nicodemus it can only come in a new, immortal body.

As usual, you appear to be trying to make a specific condition out of a generality.

Yeshua himself said in Matthew 24 that only those that endure to the end shall be saved. So while no one can pluck us out of his hand, we are free to leave his hand by our own volition. Paul and Peter explained this fact in great detail in Hebrews 6, and 2Peter 2.

It just requires a less tendentious mode of reading, so that one gets God’s meaning rather than one’s own desire.
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805 posted on 05/01/2015 9:40:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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