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To: editor-surveyor
>>Paul’s confidence in the Ephesians spiritual grounding had nothing to do with the world at large, and cannot be imputed thereto.<<

So you are claiming that it was only the Ephesians who received the guarantee of the Holy Spirit and anyone else who receives the indwelling of the Holy Spirit it's not as a guarantee? I'm sure you can justify the view with scripture. I would like to see that scripture.

608 posted on 04/30/2015 8:16:51 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
On my profile page I posted a little study of the term 'faith', including the verb form, as generated from the Greek of the New Testament writers.

It is by faith that we are Saved, in the now not the by-and-by, because we are trusting/faithing in the Promises of God. God's perspective covers all of time as a volume not a string. When God speaks, worlds leap into existence. When we trust in a promise from God, we are then registered for all of time and eternity, from that instant throughout all of time's volume, and the Promise from God is a reality across all of time and eternity, for God cannot lie or deceive, He is Righteousness itself.

If we believe what Paul wrote concerning Abraham, that by faith he was counted righteous, then it is that mystery of how faithing attaches to the Cross which holds our trust in God's promises that we pin our Salvation upon.

The same Cross was/is/will be attached to Abrahams faithing in God's Promises ... that through Issac would God bless Abraham, so even before going up the mountain, Abraham exhibited his Trust in God's Promise by instructing the men with them to wait at the foot of the mountain and THEY would return to them soon enough. Abraham exhibited his faith in God's Promise with the mindset he used to make that statement to the accompanying men.

At the end of the 1000 years of Christ's reign upon the earth, with the resurrected saints from the tribulation in their earthy bodies again, along with the 'endured to the end' saints from the Tribulation, the Cross will apply to those who then receive glorified bodies as the Raptured Saints have while reigning with Christ. The power in the Blood of Christ is within every nook and cranny of time, all of past, present, and future and beyond, and it is by FAITHING in His Promises that the power is imparted to the confessing sinner and they are made a new creation.

That the seventieth week of Daniel is for the Jews is illustrated by the FACT (as shown in the Bible from Genesis to the Revelation) that during the 1000 years the Jews will again be operating on a Temple perspective, complete with the works performed in and through the Temple. The Church Age will be as much a lesson to the Jews as the sixty-nine weeks of Daniel History of the Jews is a lesson to the Church Age saints. By faith The Cross is counted as our Redemption, not by works that we have done, but by faith we are counted righteous. The thief on the cross was with Jesus in Paradise that day because he was Saved the instant he asked Jesus to 'remember him when He came into His Kingdom', by faith in Him to deliver from sin. The thief died a Saved man.

If we believe that Salvation cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, we have supernaturally attached to the Promises of God, which exist across all of time and become real in an instant and remain real for ever and ever. The ONE THING which generates 'sameness' for The Church to be Raptured is the presence of God's Holy Spirit in the human spirit of believers in God's Promises. Incidentally, Paul writes in one of his letters that PETER was the Apostle to the Jews and he, Paul, is the Apostle to the gentiles. So how is it that Catholicism has given Peter a transverse authority and set Paul aside, yet they read Paul's letters at Mass and trust in the Truth which Paul reveals? ... behold I show you a mystery ;*)

621 posted on 04/30/2015 8:58:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: CynicalBear

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>> “So you are claiming that it was only the Ephesians who received the guarantee of the Holy Spirit and anyone else who receives the indwelling of the Holy Spirit it’s not as a guarantee?” <<

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That is total straw, and cannot be conglomerated from what I posted.

There are no guarantees.

We all must endure to the end. All of the apostles are in full agreement with Yeshua on this.

Paul was merely expressing his confidence in the Ephesian congregation, that they would endure, based on his knowledge of them.
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628 posted on 04/30/2015 10:02:00 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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